> So if your argument is that laws are morality My point was explicitly that the laws of a society catch up but they are inherently almost always behind the mo

> So if your argument is that laws are morality My point was explicitly that the laws of a society catch up but they are inherently almost always behind the morality of that society. What you're describing is not only this delay but also the fact that you're talking about 2 different societies. And when the system above doesn't work it's not a democracy. > And wouldn't laws in a democracy > Not if dissent has been crushed. If a democracy crushes dissent it's either not a democracy or the views of the majority demand that dissent be crushed. Again, the point was that if society overall changes it's views on morality of things, laws tend to eventually follow. Either by force (overthrowing the oppressive regime) or by vote. Take the examples of race and sexuality to see how laws were changes as the views of society changed.