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It's just too good - We have blamed Russia for using our platforms to elect someone. Now Russia is telling our platforms to block certain content otherwise they
by rhacker 7y ago
It's just too good - We have blamed Russia for using our platforms to elect someone. Now Russia is telling our platforms to block certain content otherwise they will consider it interference. The Cold War never ended did it?
- dmix 7y agoIsn’t it pretty common policy for the US et al to promote pro democracy protests and politicians in other countries? If it did come from state backed information sources I could see some legitimacy to the claim but I doubt that’s the only thing they mean. As always there will be tons of misdirection to hide the sources and overstating of the impact of foreign boogiemen for political points and justification of new information controls. It’s a tactic as old as politics.
- lazyjones 7y ago> Isn’t it pretty common policy for the US et al to promote pro democracy protests and politicians in other countries? No, the US have supported and promoted dozens of coups and dictators. The phrase you're looking for is not "pro democracy", it's "aligned with the US interests".
- deogeo 7y agoThese kinds of criticisms can ring rather shallow and generic without examples. So here's an example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d'%C3%A9tat https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d'%C3%A9tat
- natechols 7y agoIt's still pretty shallow and generic if the cited example occurred when my parents were still small children.
- soulofmischief 7y agoHow, exactly? One day your children could say the same of political atrocities committed in your youth. Governments outlast people. The infrastructure and incentives which drive it have not changed. America was founded and bred on colonialism and foreign dictatorships which enable cheap cost of living at the expense of hellish working conditions in other countries.
- natechols 7y agoIf you're going to claim that something is common practice, you should be able to do better than a 65-year-old example. There are certainly many more recent examples of American foreign policy screwups - some of which were vastly more destructive than Iran - but I'm not aware of any during my lifetime that involved overthrowing a democratically elected government.
- soulofmischief 7y agoBy this logic, governments would never be held accountable for their actions if they simply waited to address them 65 years after the fact.
- rodorgas 7y agoAnother examples are dictatorial coups in Latin America supported by USA: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change_in_Latin_America https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in...
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- DenisM 7y agoIt's one thing to offer the wires, it's another to speak over them. If you were meaning to draw an equivalency it's not working out.
- MiroF 7y agoI think it is a naive view to think that the United States doesn't "speak over them."
- zzzcpan 7y agoIf you want to be a gatekeeper, expect everyone more powerful to force you to do gatekeeping for them.
- pas 7y agoThe moment Google adhered to the first Roskomnadzor (or whatthefuck is its name) request they become gatekeepers. After a certain point, simply due to the number of people on your platform, you become someone to be influenced / controlled / watched out for / a target / a friend / an enemy. And other control brokers, large and small, will try to influence you. (And - to a degree - you can't escape it, you will be influenced. Now you have to counter it, embrace it, ignore it, understand it, downplay it, dodge it, amplify it, etc.) Size (of potential influence) makes organizations, platforms, people targets, not "gatekeeping".
- makomk 7y agoThis was all entirely predictable, of course, but that didn't stop our entire press and most of our politicians from handing this talking point to Russia on a silver platter.