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How much does your bullshit detector hit with their promo video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yd_2HwAmge8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yd_2HwAmge8

chvid 7y ago
That video is amazing. The conference is really playing into Time AIs game by censoring it. Underlying the story that this new technology is just too big and too groundbreaking for the industry to accept :-D
- sschueller 7y ago
  It's like some Hollywood movie intro, really well made.
- BubRoss 7y ago
  A conference not accepting a talk is not censorship.
  - misnome 7y ago
    The conference accepted the talk. They gave the talk. The conference is now removing their videos after-the-fact. It's not hard to see how one could spin that as censorship.
    - moloch 7y ago
      The conference did _not_ accept the talk, they paid the conference so that they could give the talk.
      - StavrosK 7y ago
        Which they accepted, no?
        jjeaff 7y ago
        They don't vet the paid presentations.
        StavrosK 7y ago
        Really? Wow.
    - hannasanarion 7y ago
      It is censorship. Not all censorship is bad. Black Hat has a duty to censor these asshats.
- delfinom 7y ago
  BlackHat isn't really the "industry to accept it". It's the industry that obliterates it as it's purpose.
misnome 7y ago
I mean - this is a pretty impressive video. Bullshit, but impressive. How much does something like this cost to get made? This isn't exactly "I know a guy who has After Effects" level production.
- tqkxzugoaupvwqr 7y ago
  The video effects are beautiful. This could easily be the intro of a successful Netflix series. I watched it completely (4:40 min) because the graphics and all the mumbo-jumbo mesmerized me.
  - toxik 7y ago
    one key from the past and one key from the _future_
    - tigershark 7y ago
      At that point it broke my BS detector, I had to order a new one.
    - drexlspivey 7y ago
      from __future__ import key
  - rini17 7y ago
    It was made by The AI itself.
  - hobofan 7y ago
    I'm not sure what you guys/gals are seeing. It's pretty much exaclty "I know a guy who knows After Effects"-level. Most of the graphics style is pretty inconsistent as the basis (probably stock footage) and only made consistent via heavy filters (desaturating everything and applying a lot of bloom). You could probably cobble this video together for a few hundred bucks on Fiverr.
    - 7y ago
tomxor 7y ago
It's pretty amazing, it feels far fetched even for a sc-fi... They claim to have discovered something that simultaneously renders all prime number based encryption algorithms obsolete and dangerous, opened a door to a new unified theorem in physics life and everything, has something vaguely to do with music and time and a new class of prime numbers, and for the dystopian icing on the cake: only they with their new proprietary algorithm can they protect all your important information... oh also AI of course, because AI.
- misnome 7y ago
  As far as I can tell/guess, if there is actually any product to what they claim, they are just taking standard encryption techniques and making them worse by applying buzzwords. Relating to my non-expert laymans understanding of cryptography, the process is: - Generate primes. Practically, I understand that it's usually generating a number that's extremely likely to be prime. It sounds like they are using "not a multiple of 24" for this part (which is both obvious and obviously bad, for obvious reasons) - Multiplex data with a sequence off of the original factorization, which is only as secure as the prime but slows down brute-force attacks. It sounds like they are using sampled waveforms of this-maybe-prime to AI-generated music (topical!) as the multiplexing sequence. It basically sounds like cargo-cult mathematics - all the best mathematics are beautiful and use symmetry _ergo_ creating something with symmetry and beauty must be good mathematics.
_0ffh 7y ago
Broke the needle. I wonder who they're targeting with this. Given the nature of the product and the high production value bullshit video, I guess they must be after either rich individuals or incompetent upper management.

chvid 7y ago

That video is amazing. The conference is really playing into Time AIs game by censoring it. Underlying the story that this new technology is just too big and too groundbreaking for the industry to accept :-D

sschueller 7y ago
It's like some Hollywood movie intro, really well made.
BubRoss 7y ago
A conference not accepting a talk is not censorship.
- misnome 7y ago
  The conference accepted the talk. They gave the talk. The conference is now removing their videos after-the-fact. It's not hard to see how one could spin that as censorship.
  - moloch 7y ago
    The conference did _not_ accept the talk, they paid the conference so that they could give the talk.
    - StavrosK 7y ago
      Which they accepted, no?
      - jjeaff 7y ago
        They don't vet the paid presentations.
        StavrosK 7y ago
        Really? Wow.
  - hannasanarion 7y ago
    It is censorship. Not all censorship is bad. Black Hat has a duty to censor these asshats.
delfinom 7y ago
BlackHat isn't really the "industry to accept it". It's the industry that obliterates it as it's purpose.

misnome 7y ago

I mean - this is a pretty impressive video. Bullshit, but impressive. How much does something like this cost to get made? This isn't exactly "I know a guy who has After Effects" level production.

tqkxzugoaupvwqr 7y ago
The video effects are beautiful. This could easily be the intro of a successful Netflix series. I watched it completely (4:40 min) because the graphics and all the mumbo-jumbo mesmerized me.
- toxik 7y ago
  one key from the past and one key from the _future_
  - tigershark 7y ago
    At that point it broke my BS detector, I had to order a new one.
  - drexlspivey 7y ago
    from __future__ import key
- rini17 7y ago
  It was made by The AI itself.
- hobofan 7y ago
  I'm not sure what you guys/gals are seeing. It's pretty much exaclty "I know a guy who knows After Effects"-level. Most of the graphics style is pretty inconsistent as the basis (probably stock footage) and only made consistent via heavy filters (desaturating everything and applying a lot of bloom). You could probably cobble this video together for a few hundred bucks on Fiverr.
  - 7y ago

tomxor 7y ago

It's pretty amazing, it feels far fetched even for a sc-fi... They claim to have discovered something that simultaneously renders all prime number based encryption algorithms obsolete and dangerous, opened a door to a new unified theorem in physics life and everything, has something vaguely to do with music and time and a new class of prime numbers, and for the dystopian icing on the cake: only they with their new proprietary algorithm can they protect all your important information... oh also AI of course, because AI.

misnome 7y ago
As far as I can tell/guess, if there is actually any product to what they claim, they are just taking standard encryption techniques and making them worse by applying buzzwords. Relating to my non-expert laymans understanding of cryptography, the process is: - Generate primes. Practically, I understand that it's usually generating a number that's extremely likely to be prime. It sounds like they are using "not a multiple of 24" for this part (which is both obvious and obviously bad, for obvious reasons) - Multiplex data with a sequence off of the original factorization, which is only as secure as the prime but slows down brute-force attacks. It sounds like they are using sampled waveforms of this-maybe-prime to AI-generated music (topical!) as the multiplexing sequence. It basically sounds like cargo-cult mathematics - all the best mathematics are beautiful and use symmetry _ergo_ creating something with symmetry and beauty must be good mathematics.

_0ffh 7y ago

Broke the needle. I wonder who they're targeting with this. Given the nature of the product and the high production value bullshit video, I guess they must be after either rich individuals or incompetent upper management.