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Because 0-60 times are just one facet of performance. Why aren't Tesla dominating Formula E? Or hill climbing?

Lendal 7y ago
Most people buying these things know the only performance thing they'll ever do with the car is a straight launch from a stop at an intersection. They won't ever be needing high-G turning ability on a city street, nor any other maneuver that would be too dangerous on a city street with pedestrians and bicyclists around. Tesla seems to have played their cards very well.
- mprev 7y ago
  In the US maybe.
- sorokod 7y ago
  Most people buying these things know the only performance thing they'll ever do with the car is a straight launch from a stop at an intersection Is that true? I would have thought that the most Tesla owners care about is how far they can project their image of wealth and sofistication
  - tonyedgecombe 7y ago
    and how "environmentally conscious" they are.
  - hw 7y ago
    I would have thought that the most Tesla owners care about is how far they can project their image of wealth and sofistication Unless you're getting the high end variants of the S and 3, it's not really projecting wealth and sophistication, but rather the opposite. I bought a Model 3 because it just makes more sense financially than say getting a BMW 3 series.
    - ratsbane 7y ago
      I agree. I see the Model 3 as a Honda Civic that just happens to drive better than a $250,000 car from ten years ago. The Model 3 is an extraordinary car, but the most extraordinary thing about it is that it's available to anyone for <$50k.
    - brokenmachine 7y ago
      >Unless you're getting the high end variants of the S and 3, it's not really projecting wealth and sophistication, but rather the opposite. I bought a Model 3 because it just makes more sense financially than say getting a BMW 3 series. Maybe you can use all that money you saved to buy some perspective.
- usrusr 7y ago
  Neither do they need three-point-anything accelerations in the environment you describe. The only thing that makes it not a bad thing is that they don't have to trade much (if any) efficiency at more modest loads to achieve this, very much unlike their ICE brethren who want similar numbers.
ratsbane 7y ago
https://www.topgear.com/car-news/electric/teslas-model-s-just-smashed-pikes-peak-hillclimb https://www.topgear.com/car-news/electric/teslas-model-s-jus... Formula E, Goodwood, etc. are open to non-street legal cars - the designs are purpose-built for racing and Tesla doesn't have a factory race team.

Most people buying these things know the only performance thing they'll ever do with the car is a straight launch from a stop at an intersection. They won't ever be needing high-G turning ability on a city street, nor any other maneuver that would be too dangerous on a city street with pedestrians and bicyclists around. Tesla seems to have played their cards very well.

mprev 7y ago
In the US maybe.
sorokod 7y ago
Most people buying these things know the only performance thing they'll ever do with the car is a straight launch from a stop at an intersection Is that true? I would have thought that the most Tesla owners care about is how far they can project their image of wealth and sofistication
- tonyedgecombe 7y ago
  and how "environmentally conscious" they are.
- hw 7y ago
  I would have thought that the most Tesla owners care about is how far they can project their image of wealth and sofistication Unless you're getting the high end variants of the S and 3, it's not really projecting wealth and sophistication, but rather the opposite. I bought a Model 3 because it just makes more sense financially than say getting a BMW 3 series.
  - ratsbane 7y ago
    I agree. I see the Model 3 as a Honda Civic that just happens to drive better than a $250,000 car from ten years ago. The Model 3 is an extraordinary car, but the most extraordinary thing about it is that it's available to anyone for <$50k.
  - brokenmachine 7y ago
    >Unless you're getting the high end variants of the S and 3, it's not really projecting wealth and sophistication, but rather the opposite. I bought a Model 3 because it just makes more sense financially than say getting a BMW 3 series. Maybe you can use all that money you saved to buy some perspective.
usrusr 7y ago
Neither do they need three-point-anything accelerations in the environment you describe. The only thing that makes it not a bad thing is that they don't have to trade much (if any) efficiency at more modest loads to achieve this, very much unlike their ICE brethren who want similar numbers.

ratsbane 7y ago

https://www.topgear.com/car-news/electric/teslas-model-s-just-smashed-pikes-peak-hillclimb https://www.topgear.com/car-news/electric/teslas-model-s-jus... Formula E, Goodwood, etc. are open to non-street legal cars - the designs are purpose-built for racing and Tesla doesn't have a factory race team.