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I think this is the first car that is nearing the 2013 tesla model s. I'm also curious about the rapid charge, it was supposed to be 350 afaik but is launching

by tyfon 7y ago

I think this is the first car that is nearing the 2013 tesla model s. I'm also curious about the rapid charge, it was supposed to be 350 afaik but is launching with 150ish only (not 250 as in the web page) and will be increased with software updates in the next few years. I think if they put a proper infotainment system with a big screen like tesla, give free map/system updates and it doesn't suck in efficiency it might actually sell a bit more than etron and i-pace. However looking at it... it reminds me of a frog, so maybe not..

clouddrover 7y ago
> I think this is the first car that is nearing the 2013 tesla model s. They're aimed at different things. The Taycan is a performance car, the Model S isn't. The Model S is uncompetitive with the Taycan around a race track, for example.
- bamboozled 7y ago
  Also why the big screen probably isn’t a priority while hooning around a track!
- outericky 7y ago
  I never really understood this comparison. 99% of owners will never see the track. So why do we care so much about track performance?
  - herova 7y ago
    Not in Germany, which is most valuable market for Porsche.
lazyjones 7y ago
> it might actually sell a bit more than etron and i-pace. That's not really hard... Both these models aren't really selling well.
- tyfon 7y ago
  They're selling better than the model x in Norway so far in 2019. For me personally they have too short range and too little space but there is a certain segment that want a "real" electric car made by an encumbered manufacturer. I used to be one of them until I saw the specs of the i-pace and etron.
- navigatesol 7y ago
  Can you show your data? I think both those models are out selling S/X.
- brohee 7y ago
  The i-Pace sales are limited by the Austrian factory capacity to make them AFAIK
lm28469 7y ago
Let's wait for the price, real world performances and see how the fit and finish is. As good as the 2013 model S was it was far from perfect and suffered from many issues.
- tyfon 7y ago
  Yeah there was enough issues with it for me to go for a toyota instead at the time, especially with rattling in the windows. I'm also really curious as to it's consumption at 100-120 km/h (60-75 mph). That and the internal space was what struck down the etron and i-pace for me.
zippergz 7y ago
I know I’m the weirdo, but the big screen is something I dislike about the Model S. I’m glad to be getting options that don’t have it.
- kentm 7y ago
  Not sure about the S, but the 3’d big screen looks really goofy to me and was a definite factor in my decision to wait for more electric car competition.
  - kwhitefoot 7y ago
    The big screen on the S and X gets rid of all the clutter in the centre console. Just look at the centre console on the I-Pace, e-Tron, and EQC 400, just a mess of screens and buttons making the interior look and actually be more cramped. I like the assembly quality on the Magna Steyr built Jaguar but the design is too fussy for me. I prefer my S.

by tyfon 7y ago

clouddrover 7y ago

> I think this is the first car that is nearing the 2013 tesla model s. They're aimed at different things. The Taycan is a performance car, the Model S isn't. The Model S is uncompetitive with the Taycan around a race track, for example.

bamboozled 7y ago
Also why the big screen probably isn’t a priority while hooning around a track!
outericky 7y ago
I never really understood this comparison. 99% of owners will never see the track. So why do we care so much about track performance?
- herova 7y ago
  Not in Germany, which is most valuable market for Porsche.

lazyjones 7y ago

> it might actually sell a bit more than etron and i-pace. That's not really hard... Both these models aren't really selling well.

tyfon 7y ago
They're selling better than the model x in Norway so far in 2019. For me personally they have too short range and too little space but there is a certain segment that want a "real" electric car made by an encumbered manufacturer. I used to be one of them until I saw the specs of the i-pace and etron.
navigatesol 7y ago
Can you show your data? I think both those models are out selling S/X.
brohee 7y ago
The i-Pace sales are limited by the Austrian factory capacity to make them AFAIK

lm28469 7y ago

Let's wait for the price, real world performances and see how the fit and finish is. As good as the 2013 model S was it was far from perfect and suffered from many issues.

tyfon 7y ago
Yeah there was enough issues with it for me to go for a toyota instead at the time, especially with rattling in the windows. I'm also really curious as to it's consumption at 100-120 km/h (60-75 mph). That and the internal space was what struck down the etron and i-pace for me.

zippergz 7y ago

I know I’m the weirdo, but the big screen is something I dislike about the Model S. I’m glad to be getting options that don’t have it.

kentm 7y ago
Not sure about the S, but the 3’d big screen looks really goofy to me and was a definite factor in my decision to wait for more electric car competition.
- kwhitefoot 7y ago
  The big screen on the S and X gets rid of all the clutter in the centre console. Just look at the centre console on the I-Pace, e-Tron, and EQC 400, just a mess of screens and buttons making the interior look and actually be more cramped. I like the assembly quality on the Magna Steyr built Jaguar but the design is too fussy for me. I prefer my S.