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I would have loved to go to camp again this time but they only distributed tickets through hacker spaces, none of which I am affiliated with. Sad.

by enneff 7y ago

albertzeyer 7y ago
Yes, me too. It's getting too famous, and too much people want to go, and the space they rented just did not allow for more people. Not sure how to resolve this. They should maybe get some bigger space, but maybe that it not so simple. There are some smaller events (also organized by CCC) which can maybe be an alternative. Maybe the next Dutch camp (next after https://sha2017.org/ https://sha2017.org/) does not have this problem (I hope).
- ackbar03 7y ago
  Honestly I think people should go to the one in Beijing if they have the means to, they held the first one in China this year and it was f'ing amazing. It was held in a old oil storage tanker and had a evening session with live djs and performances. Best event I've ever been to hands down. And the Chinese hacker community is a force to be reckoned with
  - goliatone 7y ago
    Could you post a link to the event?
    - ackbar03 7y ago
      https://pandaily.com/def-con-and-baidu-security-nurturing-chinas-hacker-community/ https://pandaily.com/def-con-and-baidu-security-nurturing-ch... https://www.defcon.org/html/dc-china-1/dc-cn-1-venue.html https://www.defcon.org/html/dc-china-1/dc-cn-1-venue.html I wish they had more photos of the thing. And don't confuse it with defcon China Beta which was in 2018. They really sunk a lot of money into this event apparently, hopefully next year will be as good
  - albertzeyer 7y ago
    At least for the CCC, the main focus is always privacy concerns, politics, freedom, etc. (besides the technical topics). Wikipedia and Wikileaks are often represented there. China is often given as one of the bad examples with respect to freedom, e.g. think about the Great Firewall of China. So I wonder, how does a hacker event fit into this? Wouldn't you be afraid to discuss such topics there? Or do you avoid such topics there, and focus more on just technical topics?
    - iancarroll 7y ago
      Having been to the "beta" and 1.0, there was some light guidance on discussing territories / GFW, but nothing terrible. I would not try discussing anything about the CCP though (and you might find it hard to find anyone who wants to!) IMO it is a bit of a weird event because many things are imported. Villages almost all come from the USA (and speakers to some extent) and have their travel and lodging completely covered. It is probably a good way to foster local talent, hence why Baidu pays so much $$$ for it.
- lima 7y ago
  It's not just space, infrastructure costs/complexity increase exponentially with more visitors.

I would have loved to go to camp again this time but they only distributed tickets through hacker spaces, none of which I am affiliated with. Sad.

by enneff 7y ago

I would have loved to go to camp again this time but they only distributed tickets through hacker spaces, none of which I am affiliated with. Sad.

albertzeyer 7y ago

Yes, me too. It's getting too famous, and too much people want to go, and the space they rented just did not allow for more people. Not sure how to resolve this. They should maybe get some bigger space, but maybe that it not so simple. There are some smaller events (also organized by CCC) which can maybe be an alternative. Maybe the next Dutch camp (next after https://sha2017.org/ https://sha2017.org/) does not have this problem (I hope).

ackbar03 7y ago
Honestly I think people should go to the one in Beijing if they have the means to, they held the first one in China this year and it was f'ing amazing. It was held in a old oil storage tanker and had a evening session with live djs and performances. Best event I've ever been to hands down. And the Chinese hacker community is a force to be reckoned with
- goliatone 7y ago
  Could you post a link to the event?
  - ackbar03 7y ago
    https://pandaily.com/def-con-and-baidu-security-nurturing-chinas-hacker-community/ https://pandaily.com/def-con-and-baidu-security-nurturing-ch... https://www.defcon.org/html/dc-china-1/dc-cn-1-venue.html https://www.defcon.org/html/dc-china-1/dc-cn-1-venue.html I wish they had more photos of the thing. And don't confuse it with defcon China Beta which was in 2018. They really sunk a lot of money into this event apparently, hopefully next year will be as good
- albertzeyer 7y ago
  At least for the CCC, the main focus is always privacy concerns, politics, freedom, etc. (besides the technical topics). Wikipedia and Wikileaks are often represented there. China is often given as one of the bad examples with respect to freedom, e.g. think about the Great Firewall of China. So I wonder, how does a hacker event fit into this? Wouldn't you be afraid to discuss such topics there? Or do you avoid such topics there, and focus more on just technical topics?
  - iancarroll 7y ago
    Having been to the "beta" and 1.0, there was some light guidance on discussing territories / GFW, but nothing terrible. I would not try discussing anything about the CCP though (and you might find it hard to find anyone who wants to!) IMO it is a bit of a weird event because many things are imported. Villages almost all come from the USA (and speakers to some extent) and have their travel and lodging completely covered. It is probably a good way to foster local talent, hence why Baidu pays so much $$$ for it.
lima 7y ago
It's not just space, infrastructure costs/complexity increase exponentially with more visitors.