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> To be fair, most of innovation in America also comes from the public sector not the private one What does that have to do with what OP is talking about?
by seppin 7y ago
> To be fair, most of innovation in America also comes from the public sector not the private one
What does that have to do with what OP is talking about?
- macspoofing 7y agoHe's trying to argue that America is like China.
- fixitfixit 7y agoWhataboutism on articles about China is inevitable. Edit: downvote all you want, but that doesn’t make it false.. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent_Party https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent_Party
- TheKarateKid 7y agoNot sure why this is downvoted, as that's exactly what the commenter's point was.
- Barrin92 7y agoThe original post seems to assert that >"The idea that we are competing with “free market” Chinese companies is a fiction that we’ve made up in our own minds" this fiction applies to a significant degree in the United States too.
- ZeroGravitas 7y agoAlso, if all the Chinese are doing is going and looking up all the publicly funded research then the system is working as intended, just as if they needed some kind of software and came back with something open source. There's no need for them to "steal" Microsoft's tech if they can get something suitable with a better licence.
- TheKarateKid 7y agoDid you fully read the OP's comment? We're not talking software here -- we're talking hardware, engineering, and many other things that you don't just get a copy of the how-to's from open source projects.
- ZeroGravitas 7y agoThe claim is that the Chinese are copying stuff via industrial espionage. I get that. But Apple also sued Samsung for using rounded corners on a phone. So there's a lot of gray area in IP enforcement. A similar non-chinese example is the AV1 codec from Google or the Android compatibility with Java. Both are claimed to be IP theft by other western parties. I don't think either of those claims hold up, and I have no real reason to believe that China's violations are any more morally suspect without a lot more specifics. Modern IP enforcement has left me in a "boy who cried wolf" mentality when it comes to infringement. To be honest I'm more scared of China playing that game in a hardball manner than I am of them ignoring it.
- TheKarateKid 7y agoApple, Samsung, Google, etc. may all have infringed at times, but their entire product and companies are not based off of infringement. Even in the products they infringe, the majority of it is their own. These Chinese companies literally clone the entire product. Entire businesses are based off theft.
- specialist 7y agoOur current IP protections are copyright, patent, and trade secrets. It's a mistake to conflate the three. Stealing trade secrets is a bit different from mimicking another's visual identity (rounded corners).