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I find the other extreme, as in the USA, more dangerous. Therefore the question "Who owns the US government?" could be asked too. Someone could look into examp

I find the other extreme, as in the USA, more dangerous. Therefore the question "Who owns the US government?" could be asked too. Someone could look into example of Boeing and the FAA. The more we learn about 737-Max and 787 Dreamliner certification the more it's obvious that Boeing is running the FAA. Another example is the FDA. Good example here is Monsanto. While it was under US ownership everything was fine. Once it got sold to Bayer, suddenly stuff is carcinogenic. What I want to say is, that everybody knew since more than a decade before the transaction, that the stuff is carcinogenic. This seems to me like the FAA was protecting Monsanto before it was sold off.

mlvljr 7y ago
FDA,not FAA
heisenbit 7y ago
Yep, considering the concentration of wealth in few hands and the fact that most of these hands are politically well connected and fund political careers the system may not be so different. Old taxonomies for political systems can blind us for key similarities.
dragonwriter 7y ago
> Another example is the FDA. Good example here is Monsanto. While it was under US ownership everything was fine. Once it got sold to Bayer, suddenly stuff is carcinogenic. The FDA doesn't do that for pesticides, it just makes sure quantities in foods are within EPA limits. https://www.fda.gov/food/pesticides/questions-and-answers-glyphosate https://www.fda.gov/food/pesticides/questions-and-answers-gl... The EPA is the one who would make the determination you suggest, but in fact they still say the opposite: https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2019-04-30/epa-glyphosate-the-herbicide-in-roundup-does-not-cause-cancer https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2019-04-3... It's trial juries in the US that have been giving Bayer problems with regard to RoundUp, not regulatory agencies. Which doesn't fit with your government conspiracy theory.

mlvljr 7y ago

FDA,not FAA

heisenbit 7y ago

Yep, considering the concentration of wealth in few hands and the fact that most of these hands are politically well connected and fund political careers the system may not be so different. Old taxonomies for political systems can blind us for key similarities.

dragonwriter 7y ago

> Another example is the FDA. Good example here is Monsanto. While it was under US ownership everything was fine. Once it got sold to Bayer, suddenly stuff is carcinogenic. The FDA doesn't do that for pesticides, it just makes sure quantities in foods are within EPA limits. https://www.fda.gov/food/pesticides/questions-and-answers-glyphosate https://www.fda.gov/food/pesticides/questions-and-answers-gl... The EPA is the one who would make the determination you suggest, but in fact they still say the opposite: https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2019-04-30/epa-glyphosate-the-herbicide-in-roundup-does-not-cause-cancer https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2019-04-3... It's trial juries in the US that have been giving Bayer problems with regard to RoundUp, not regulatory agencies. Which doesn't fit with your government conspiracy theory.