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No, not much different. Not sure what it is about politics and/or power that somehow makes it so difficult to keep it in your pants.

krapp 7y ago
>Not sure what it is about politics and/or power that somehow makes it so difficult to keep it in your pants. Sexual aggression has been a virtue signal of male power and status since the days when kings compared the size of their slave harems. Modern men have been taught through all forms of commercial media that their value as people is directly proportional to the amount of casual sex they have. Culturally, power and sex have always been linked. When Trump said he could just grab women by the pussy and get away with it, of course, he was right. At that level of privilege one often doesn't need to keep it in their pants. Propriety and chastity are for lesser men to whom legal and social consequences can be applied.
- redleggedfrog 7y ago
  Yes, the badge of honor I mentioned earlier. Still disappointing. You'd think we'd be better than this, by now.
  - krapp 7y ago
    Two steps forward, one step back, unfortunately. It's difficult to make progress when rape culture is a billion dollar industry and we're in the midst of an anti-progressive social backlash. At least every now and then a Bill Cosby or Harvey Weinstein gets raked over the coals. Maybe it's simply due to the existence of social media and an actual positive effect of "outrage culture" but a few decades ago such people would have been all but untouchable.
    - LifeLiverTransp 7y ago
      >Rape culture Rape culture was the inversion of choice. Quite literaly as in- a hunter/warrior who is near suicidal and risk taking, that he might not be around tomorrow, forces upon all potential mates the choice of now or never. A road some potential mates took (and still take today, though it it is no longer tolerated), to keep the high risk-high reward nature of group outliers going. Now rape, was the ultimate gesture in this context- do it and the individual will become either forced to integrate and settle into society (as still seen today in many "honor"-cultures) or will be austracized, and forced into the "explorer/scout" role for his group. A state out of which only the discovery of large opportunity or death could liberate the culprit. I do not see this in modern culture. Surely there are still reckless one-night stands with percieved high risk takers (Band Groupies come to mind). But there is no risky endavour and "outside" to which a lone-wulf could be condemned (the equivalent today would be to shoot him/her one way into space). The by you described harem effect around the rich and powerfull has near nothing to do with rape culture. These people are not really risc-searching, as in engaging en mass in activitys that are potentially lethal. A more detailed explenation of your statement would be nice.
SAI_Peregrinus 7y ago
You've probably got the direction of causation backwards. People who want lots of sexual partners seek ways to get that. Many people are attracted to the powerful. So people who can't stand to keep it in their pants are more likely to seek positions of power.

krapp 7y ago

>Not sure what it is about politics and/or power that somehow makes it so difficult to keep it in your pants. Sexual aggression has been a virtue signal of male power and status since the days when kings compared the size of their slave harems. Modern men have been taught through all forms of commercial media that their value as people is directly proportional to the amount of casual sex they have. Culturally, power and sex have always been linked. When Trump said he could just grab women by the pussy and get away with it, of course, he was right. At that level of privilege one often doesn't need to keep it in their pants. Propriety and chastity are for lesser men to whom legal and social consequences can be applied.

redleggedfrog 7y ago
Yes, the badge of honor I mentioned earlier. Still disappointing. You'd think we'd be better than this, by now.
- krapp 7y ago
  Two steps forward, one step back, unfortunately. It's difficult to make progress when rape culture is a billion dollar industry and we're in the midst of an anti-progressive social backlash. At least every now and then a Bill Cosby or Harvey Weinstein gets raked over the coals. Maybe it's simply due to the existence of social media and an actual positive effect of "outrage culture" but a few decades ago such people would have been all but untouchable.
  - LifeLiverTransp 7y ago
    >Rape culture Rape culture was the inversion of choice. Quite literaly as in- a hunter/warrior who is near suicidal and risk taking, that he might not be around tomorrow, forces upon all potential mates the choice of now or never. A road some potential mates took (and still take today, though it it is no longer tolerated), to keep the high risk-high reward nature of group outliers going. Now rape, was the ultimate gesture in this context- do it and the individual will become either forced to integrate and settle into society (as still seen today in many "honor"-cultures) or will be austracized, and forced into the "explorer/scout" role for his group. A state out of which only the discovery of large opportunity or death could liberate the culprit. I do not see this in modern culture. Surely there are still reckless one-night stands with percieved high risk takers (Band Groupies come to mind). But there is no risky endavour and "outside" to which a lone-wulf could be condemned (the equivalent today would be to shoot him/her one way into space). The by you described harem effect around the rich and powerfull has near nothing to do with rape culture. These people are not really risc-searching, as in engaging en mass in activitys that are potentially lethal. A more detailed explenation of your statement would be nice.

SAI_Peregrinus 7y ago

You've probably got the direction of causation backwards. People who want lots of sexual partners seek ways to get that. Many people are attracted to the powerful. So people who can't stand to keep it in their pants are more likely to seek positions of power.