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People also died precisely because of market manipulation, due to food shortages, housing shortages, and of course healthcare shortages, which were especially c
by TomMarius 7y ago
People also died precisely because of market manipulation, due to food shortages, housing shortages, and of course healthcare shortages, which were especially catastrophic. I was not talking about the gulags.
And I am not Russian.
- danaris 7y agoAnd I never said anything about gulags. I have no idea what your country is, as you didn't mention it; however, I have heard over and over again the argument that Stalin killed millions of people, therefore anything that moves even the slightest bit toward socialism is Evil. The fact remains that claiming that setting maximum prices for some lifesaving drugs will lead to the situation you saw in your country has no logical basis. At best, it's a slippery slope fallacy.
- TomMarius 7y agoSo what killed these people that weren't in gulags? Some of them were killed by the secret police etc, but the absolute majority of victims of communism and socialism were not killed, they died - because of unavailable food, medicine, healthcare services, housing and so on. No one is talking about people Stalin killed and you're right it has no logic. The thing that got these people to die was market manipulation, which is why I posted it in a discussion about market manipulation. Not everyone has to be immediately thinking about Stalin when making an argument about socialism leading to deaths. There are plenty of options. See Venezuela for instance.