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[I, honestly, am hostile to n00b accounts discussing non-tech topics.] I agreed with you from your opening thread until you held high Dylan's lyrics, rather th

[I, honestly, am hostile to n00b accounts discussing non-tech topics.] I agreed with you from your opening thread until you held high Dylan's lyrics, rather than his instrumentally produced melodies which entranced me in the 80s. Poetry is not legalese or code, and is open to interpretaion.

18pfsmt 7y ago
Downvotes, but no arguments, because they have none. It is quite sick.
dang 7y ago
There's no requirement to explain downvotes on HN, because for every comment that added signal that way, there would be a thousand that added noise. That means each of us has to sort of figure out what led their comment to get downvoted. It's slower perhaps, but doable. In the case of your parent comment, the bit about hostility to noob accounts wasn't very kind, and the rest of the comment was sort of shallow and dismissive. Those things lead correctly to downvotes because they're against the site guidelines. Ditto for https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20650649 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20650649. Probably your best bet would be to review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and take the intended spirit of the site more to heart when commenting here. We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20649242 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20649242 and marked it off-topic.
- 18pfsmt 7y ago
  >There's no requirement to explain downvotes I know this. I was annoyed and responded in juvenile fashion. I was wrong. > the bit about hostility to noob accounts wasn't very kind You know far better than I, that these green accounts are created with reckless abandon and they weigh-in to controversial topics without any credibility. I realize you have access to server logs, so I'm not questioning your superior knowledge WRT the topic. I openly admit I have deficiencies in my self-discipline, but if it ever gets too much for you, just tell me I'm unwelcome and I will not comment. I'm no zealot even if I have a propensity to over-react.
  - dang 7y ago
    > I openly admit I have deficiencies in my self-discipline That makes two of us. Of course you're welcome to comment here. All we ask is that you review the site guidelines semi-regularly and work at following them—not because you're somehow deficient but because we all have to do this. They don't exactly come naturally—certainly not to me. I'm sure it's true you're no zealot. As for propensity to overreact, one trick I use is to set 'delay' in my profile to 1 (it can be 0-10 minutes). That way I'm the only person who sees my comment at first. That gives me time to re-read it outside of the edit box, and I usually notice something I want to change.
    - 18pfsmt 7y ago
      >That makes two of us. You're a parent, which seems to make a difference WRT empathy. I can openly admit that I share the viewpoints of Spock more often. Principles are costly. I never investigated 'delay,' nor have I ever seen it discussed on HN, esp. compared to 'showdead' or 'noprocrast.'
      - dang 7y ago
        It's in the FAQ, but admittedly obscure, if something in a FAQ can be obscure. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html

18pfsmt 7y ago

Downvotes, but no arguments, because they have none. It is quite sick.

dang 7y ago

There's no requirement to explain downvotes on HN, because for every comment that added signal that way, there would be a thousand that added noise. That means each of us has to sort of figure out what led their comment to get downvoted. It's slower perhaps, but doable. In the case of your parent comment, the bit about hostility to noob accounts wasn't very kind, and the rest of the comment was sort of shallow and dismissive. Those things lead correctly to downvotes because they're against the site guidelines. Ditto for https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20650649 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20650649. Probably your best bet would be to review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and take the intended spirit of the site more to heart when commenting here. We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20649242 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20649242 and marked it off-topic.

18pfsmt 7y ago
>There's no requirement to explain downvotes I know this. I was annoyed and responded in juvenile fashion. I was wrong. > the bit about hostility to noob accounts wasn't very kind You know far better than I, that these green accounts are created with reckless abandon and they weigh-in to controversial topics without any credibility. I realize you have access to server logs, so I'm not questioning your superior knowledge WRT the topic. I openly admit I have deficiencies in my self-discipline, but if it ever gets too much for you, just tell me I'm unwelcome and I will not comment. I'm no zealot even if I have a propensity to over-react.
- dang 7y ago
  > I openly admit I have deficiencies in my self-discipline That makes two of us. Of course you're welcome to comment here. All we ask is that you review the site guidelines semi-regularly and work at following them—not because you're somehow deficient but because we all have to do this. They don't exactly come naturally—certainly not to me. I'm sure it's true you're no zealot. As for propensity to overreact, one trick I use is to set 'delay' in my profile to 1 (it can be 0-10 minutes). That way I'm the only person who sees my comment at first. That gives me time to re-read it outside of the edit box, and I usually notice something I want to change.
  - 18pfsmt 7y ago
    >That makes two of us. You're a parent, which seems to make a difference WRT empathy. I can openly admit that I share the viewpoints of Spock more often. Principles are costly. I never investigated 'delay,' nor have I ever seen it discussed on HN, esp. compared to 'showdead' or 'noprocrast.'
    - dang 7y ago
      It's in the FAQ, but admittedly obscure, if something in a FAQ can be obscure. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html