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Does this stuff ever get us anywhere? I just looked at the AG's website and it looks like we're constantly suing every high powered entity in America: https://a

by heyoni 7y ago

Does this stuff ever get us anywhere? I just looked at the AG's website and it looks like we're constantly suing every high powered entity in America: https://ag.ny.gov https://ag.ny.gov

kmlx 7y ago
i recommend this essay about how absolutely crazy the AG role actually is: https://repository.jmls.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1913&context=lawreview https://repository.jmls.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1913...
- rolltiide 7y ago
  Now explain the New York AG and why it seems others are twiddling their thumbs in comparison Or perhaps they are active against multinational corporations but arent physically close enough to the media for it to ever surface?
  - IfOnlyYouKnew 7y ago
    The New York AG has the obvious advantage of having jurisdiction over the world's financial capital. Other states may often lack the nexus with the business to have standing. Then, it's simply a matter of experience: corporate and especially financial law is beyond complex, and they have the expertise, plus the financial resources, to investigate such cases. New York law is also similarly ahead. And, of course, the majority of Attorneys General are currently Republican and have absolutely no interest interfering with corporations unless those happen to be involved in journalism, renewable energy or other despicably altruistic lines of business.
ta20938 7y ago
Many of the undertakings that happen at the state level require a functioning federal government for them to go anywhere. We do not have a functioning federal government, so here we are.
- smt88 7y ago
  Our federal government works shockingly well for its size and scope. Dealing with the State Dept to replace a passport at the last minute was one of the best customer service experiences I've had in years. The parts that are not functioning are the legislature and executive branch.
  - anonuser123456 7y ago
    The State Dept is run by the executive branch.
    - smt88 7y ago
      You're right. It would've been more correct for me to say the part that works well is employed and non-political, while the dysfunctional part is composed of mostly elected officials and their appointees.
williesleg 7y ago
It's just a shakedown. NY needs more cash.
hermitdev 7y ago
I don't feel like it does. Everytime I see a NY or CA AG making these cases, I just mostly ignore them and assume they're using it as political grandstanding to run for governor or US Senate to then make the leap for a presidential bid. At least IL AGs havent been dumb enough to do this. They know if they go national, the corruption will be exposed and they'll go to jail. Typically, if they keep the corruption in state, they can get away with it. We, the people of Illinois, have largely become desensitized to corruption and has become a running joke. I mean, something like 6 or 7 of our last 11 governors have served time for corruption, and that spans both parties.
wmf 7y ago
AFAIK these cases often force companies to stop their misbehavior and offer concessions. For example, have you ever felt that it's not an accident that you don't get advertised speeds from your ISP? https://www.theverge.com/2018/12/18/18146210/charter-spectrum-174-million-settlement-new-york-state-attorney-general-internet-speeds https://www.theverge.com/2018/12/18/18146210/charter-spectru...
hristov 7y ago
Yes. During the Bush administration, for example, it was the NY attorney general Spitzer that held financial institutions accountable for their crimes as the president was determined to let them get away with everything.

by heyoni 7y ago

Does this stuff ever get us anywhere? I just looked at the AG's website and it looks like we're constantly suing every high powered entity in America: https://ag.ny.gov https://ag.ny.gov

kmlx 7y ago

i recommend this essay about how absolutely crazy the AG role actually is: https://repository.jmls.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1913&context=lawreview https://repository.jmls.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1913...

rolltiide 7y ago
Now explain the New York AG and why it seems others are twiddling their thumbs in comparison Or perhaps they are active against multinational corporations but arent physically close enough to the media for it to ever surface?
- IfOnlyYouKnew 7y ago
  The New York AG has the obvious advantage of having jurisdiction over the world's financial capital. Other states may often lack the nexus with the business to have standing. Then, it's simply a matter of experience: corporate and especially financial law is beyond complex, and they have the expertise, plus the financial resources, to investigate such cases. New York law is also similarly ahead. And, of course, the majority of Attorneys General are currently Republican and have absolutely no interest interfering with corporations unless those happen to be involved in journalism, renewable energy or other despicably altruistic lines of business.

ta20938 7y ago

Many of the undertakings that happen at the state level require a functioning federal government for them to go anywhere. We do not have a functioning federal government, so here we are.

smt88 7y ago
Our federal government works shockingly well for its size and scope. Dealing with the State Dept to replace a passport at the last minute was one of the best customer service experiences I've had in years. The parts that are not functioning are the legislature and executive branch.
- anonuser123456 7y ago
  The State Dept is run by the executive branch.
  - smt88 7y ago
    You're right. It would've been more correct for me to say the part that works well is employed and non-political, while the dysfunctional part is composed of mostly elected officials and their appointees.

williesleg 7y ago

It's just a shakedown. NY needs more cash.

hermitdev 7y ago

I don't feel like it does. Everytime I see a NY or CA AG making these cases, I just mostly ignore them and assume they're using it as political grandstanding to run for governor or US Senate to then make the leap for a presidential bid. At least IL AGs havent been dumb enough to do this. They know if they go national, the corruption will be exposed and they'll go to jail. Typically, if they keep the corruption in state, they can get away with it. We, the people of Illinois, have largely become desensitized to corruption and has become a running joke. I mean, something like 6 or 7 of our last 11 governors have served time for corruption, and that spans both parties.

wmf 7y ago

AFAIK these cases often force companies to stop their misbehavior and offer concessions. For example, have you ever felt that it's not an accident that you don't get advertised speeds from your ISP? https://www.theverge.com/2018/12/18/18146210/charter-spectrum-174-million-settlement-new-york-state-attorney-general-internet-speeds https://www.theverge.com/2018/12/18/18146210/charter-spectru...

hristov 7y ago

Yes. During the Bush administration, for example, it was the NY attorney general Spitzer that held financial institutions accountable for their crimes as the president was determined to let them get away with everything.