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They filed for this in 2011. According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_banning https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_banning there is precedent from the
by btilly 7y ago
They filed for this in 2011.
According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_banning https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_banning there is precedent from the 1980s, and Fogbugz had this feature in 2006. I don't know when Reddit implemented it, but by 2012 it was widely known that they did, so they may have implemented it first as well.
How was this patent granted?
- pmiller2 7y agoPrior art may go back further than the 1980s. I seem to recall that on some old MUDs, you could be “toaded,” or maybe “frogged,” which would make you look to others like a toad/frog, and anything you said would display as “ribbit” or something. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MUD https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MUD and https://publishing.cdlib.org/ucpressebooks/view?docId=kt367nc6m1&chunk.id=ch03&toc.depth=1&toc.id=ch03&brand=ucpress https://publishing.cdlib.org/ucpressebooks/view?docId=kt367n...
- Beldin 7y agoFrom Wikipedia: [MUD1] became the first Internet multiplayer online role-playing game in 1980, when the university connected its internal network to ARPANet. Which dates that particular piece of prior art to 1980 or later. [MUD1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/MUD https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/MUD
- zaroth 7y agoWow, thanks for the trip down memory lane. I can’t remember if the effected user would know it was happening on their end?
- pmiller2 7y agoI don't either. That's why I hedged with the word 'may'.
- ShinTakuya 7y agoUsually they would know but there was a couple of MUDs that hid it. Of course you found out pretty quickly because everyone would find the hyperactive toad hilarious.
- BryantD 7y agoYeah, you knew you were toaded. (Source: I still remember my original TinyMUD ID number, way back in the day. #17086.)
- crankylinuxuser 7y agoDo you remember a "Mirror" Sionnain? She was made into an object if you investigated her. She was a "mirror".
- core-questions 7y agoSomething Awful was "hellbanning" people ages ago. Some discussion here: https://blog.codinghorror.com/suspension-ban-or-hellban/ https://blog.codinghorror.com/suspension-ban-or-hellban/ Links to Metafilter discussion here: https://ask.metafilter.com/117775/What-was-the-first-website-to-hide-trolls-activity-to-everyone-but-the-troll-himself https://ask.metafilter.com/117775/What-was-the-first-website... > On the Citadel BBSes I frequented in the late '80s, it was referred to as the "twit bit", and the disliked user would sometimes be said to have been "twitted".
- pferde 7y agoThat gives whole new perspective on Twitter. :)
- Avery3R 7y agoReddit originally didn't have a non-shadow ban. All account-level bans were shadowbans
- grawprog 7y agoWouldn't irc's ignore feature count as a version of shadowbanning too? Channel admins can silence a user channel wide or users can ignore individual users. In both cases, as far as i know, the ignored or silenced user receives no notification of this. I also seem to rember msn messenger also had a silent blocking feature. Your activity would be invisible to the blocked user and you'd appear as offline.
- efreak 7y agoIRC doesn't provide any feedback on messaging. Messages are sent silently. However if you're quiet banned (mode #chan +b ~q:), you can still receive messages, such as the notification that the channel mode/ban has been applied, and you can still use channel commands, such as viewing the list of bans. Ignoring a user is entirely client-side. You might be able to test it with a ctcp, depending how the client is designed and configured, and depending on their umodes (if ctcps are blocked) as ctcps are standard messages with a prefix. Silencing is unlike Reddit shadow bans; firstly, it only applies to private messages, not to channels. Secondly, it has to be configured by the individual users, not by admins.
- jedberg 7y ago> I don't know when Reddit implemented it We implemented it sometime in 2007.