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Schengen is about being able to check at your borders. Indeed the UK can still do that, despite being in Europe. However, the UK still has to allow free moveme

by ArnoVW 7y ago

Schengen is about being able to check at your borders. Indeed the UK can still do that, despite being in Europe. However, the UK still has to allow free movement of people. Meaning that it can not stop Europeans from living in the UK. This does not cover working though, and I believe that some European nationalities still have to apply for a work permit. See http://www.europarl.europa.eu/factsheets/en/sheet/147/free-movement-of-persons http://www.europarl.europa.eu/factsheets/en/sheet/147/free-m...

TazeTSchnitzel 7y ago
You get it backwards, free movement of people is for workers, you don't have the right to stay if you aren't working (or alternatively studying, or living with someone who works) — though this isn't heavily enforced
- ArnoVW 7y ago
  You're right. I just looked it up to be sure. When I lived in the UK in 2007, Bulgaria and Romania entered the EU. There was some fuss about that, and initially those nationalities did not automatically obtain a work permit. These were granted the same rights in 2014. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-25237742 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-25237742
gambiting 7y ago
UK can stop anyone who is deemed national security from entering(if the worry is criminals coming here) and free movement applies only if you're employed, a student or can demonstrate that you have enough funds to live here without assistance - without it you can be denied entry. So that should solve the issue of "immigrants coming here for benefits". Really, UK has full power over its borders, it just chose not to exercise if.
- FakeComments 7y ago
  I always interpreted Brexit as people going nuclear in response to politicians callously calculating they can ignore public sentiment and decline to use those powers, in the name of advancing the politician’s ideology. For example, people weren’t pleased by those rape gangs being covered up because it might offend immigrants to prosecute raping children. That’s what “multiculturalism” meant in the UK — subjecting children to rapes so you don’t offend people. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rochdale_child_sex_abuse_ring https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rochdale_child_sex_abuse_ring https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_exploitation_scandal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_exploit... https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-46684638 https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-46684638 https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-45918845 https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-45918845 These are all first page results on Google for “British grooming gang” — there’s many, many more cases of immigrants raping British children.

by ArnoVW 7y ago

TazeTSchnitzel 7y ago

You get it backwards, free movement of people is for workers, you don't have the right to stay if you aren't working (or alternatively studying, or living with someone who works) — though this isn't heavily enforced

ArnoVW 7y ago
You're right. I just looked it up to be sure. When I lived in the UK in 2007, Bulgaria and Romania entered the EU. There was some fuss about that, and initially those nationalities did not automatically obtain a work permit. These were granted the same rights in 2014. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-25237742 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-25237742

gambiting 7y ago

UK can stop anyone who is deemed national security from entering(if the worry is criminals coming here) and free movement applies only if you're employed, a student or can demonstrate that you have enough funds to live here without assistance - without it you can be denied entry. So that should solve the issue of "immigrants coming here for benefits". Really, UK has full power over its borders, it just chose not to exercise if.

FakeComments 7y ago
I always interpreted Brexit as people going nuclear in response to politicians callously calculating they can ignore public sentiment and decline to use those powers, in the name of advancing the politician’s ideology. For example, people weren’t pleased by those rape gangs being covered up because it might offend immigrants to prosecute raping children. That’s what “multiculturalism” meant in the UK — subjecting children to rapes so you don’t offend people. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rochdale_child_sex_abuse_ring https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rochdale_child_sex_abuse_ring https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_exploitation_scandal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_exploit... https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-46684638 https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-46684638 https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-45918845 https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-45918845 These are all first page results on Google for “British grooming gang” — there’s many, many more cases of immigrants raping British children.