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Of course, even if they were totally kicking ass it will take many years for AMD to build more capacity to what Intel has. Fabs take astronomic investment and t

Of course, even if they were totally kicking ass it will take many years for AMD to build more capacity to what Intel has. Fabs take astronomic investment and time to build. But, it seems Intel is and has been for quite some time unable to even keep up with competition. It was leader and it seems 10 and 7nm processes completely stopped them in their tracks with regards to competition. I am kind of interested what actually happen. Probably there is an interesting book to be written on Intel's troubles with getting 10nm node.

Nokinside 7y ago
They made some process technology choices that didn't work out as they planned. The delay of the 10nm process and patching the delay with 14+ and 14++ didn't stop anything else they do in process technology. They have accelerated the path to 7nm (similar to TSMC's 5mm). ps. Intel plans to launch their first discrete GPU in 2020 using 7nm process. That's going to be interesting.
- ksec 7y ago
  >ps. Intel plans to launch their first discrete GPU in 2020 using 7nm process. That's going to be interesting. It is 10nm in 2020, defiantly not 7nm. That is scheduled for 2021, if they could make it on time.
  - ethbro 7y ago
    The issue with Intel's scheduling statements now is they're highly suspect. I feel like they would have burned a lot less goodwill if they hadn't straight up lied for multiple years about their maturity and timeline.
O5vYtytb 7y ago
AMD is fabless and uses TSMC and Global Foundries. I imagine they can ramp faster than you say.
- lmilcin 7y ago
  I didn't know that. Still, somebody would have to build capacity to handle demand and it won't be much faster just because it is TSMC/GF.
  - wtallis 7y ago
    The capacity already exists, if AMD can outbid the guys trying to use TSMC to produce GPUs and smartphone SoCs.
    - sundvor 7y ago
      In thrilled to see all the good news coming from AMD; that sounds really good for the 3950X I'm eyeing later this year. I've had enough of the issues with my 6850k.

Nokinside 7y ago

They made some process technology choices that didn't work out as they planned. The delay of the 10nm process and patching the delay with 14+ and 14++ didn't stop anything else they do in process technology. They have accelerated the path to 7nm (similar to TSMC's 5mm). ps. Intel plans to launch their first discrete GPU in 2020 using 7nm process. That's going to be interesting.

ksec 7y ago
>ps. Intel plans to launch their first discrete GPU in 2020 using 7nm process. That's going to be interesting. It is 10nm in 2020, defiantly not 7nm. That is scheduled for 2021, if they could make it on time.
- ethbro 7y ago
  The issue with Intel's scheduling statements now is they're highly suspect. I feel like they would have burned a lot less goodwill if they hadn't straight up lied for multiple years about their maturity and timeline.

O5vYtytb 7y ago

AMD is fabless and uses TSMC and Global Foundries. I imagine they can ramp faster than you say.

lmilcin 7y ago
I didn't know that. Still, somebody would have to build capacity to handle demand and it won't be much faster just because it is TSMC/GF.
- wtallis 7y ago
  The capacity already exists, if AMD can outbid the guys trying to use TSMC to produce GPUs and smartphone SoCs.
  - sundvor 7y ago
    In thrilled to see all the good news coming from AMD; that sounds really good for the 3950X I'm eyeing later this year. I've had enough of the issues with my 6850k.