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A lot of this had to do with how open source grew over the last decade - it grew into startup culture, not FOSS/copyleft culture. As a result, most open source

A lot of this had to do with how open source grew over the last decade - it grew into startup culture, not FOSS/copyleft culture. As a result, most open source licenses are permissive (MIT, Apache, BSD, etc.) and not true copyleft like GPLv3. And permissive open source licenses benefit companies tremendously.

sokoloff 7y ago
If companies are going to benefit from permissive licensed open source, they have obvious selection pressure towards that end for the code they create. I agree with you on the outcome; I'm not sure that I think it was startup culture that caused it, but rather any ecosystem where software was important and near ubiquitous would have evolved roughly the same way. For my own hobby code, I don't see any practical benefit to GPL over MIT. I want my code to be reusable in as many cases as possible. I've seen the toxic treatment AGPL code gets (AFAICT, the main value of that license is to companies who offer dual licenses) and the wary treatment GPL v3 (or worse "v3 or later") code gets.
mxuribe 7y ago
> ...grew into startup culture, not FOSS/copyleft culture Your comment there is quite powerful - and i believe true! So, ok, what are next steps in discovering similar high quality content like Linux Journal? Because as it happens, my discovery mode for finding good content is hacker news...though half of the things i ignore because they tend to shift the way of startup culture, which while entertaining, isn't as fulfilling as true FOSS/copyleft culture. So, do you - or anyone else here - have any recommendations to find good content like Linux Journal or any other FOSS/copyleft culture content but through an aggregated site like hacker news? (I use HN not because i'm lazy but because of lack of time; again half of stuff discovered is meh, the other half is good.)
- dragonquest 7y ago
  LWN.net (mentioned elsewhere on the thread) is quite good for finding FOSS related content.
  - mxuribe 7y ago
    Thanks; I'll give it a try!

sokoloff 7y ago

If companies are going to benefit from permissive licensed open source, they have obvious selection pressure towards that end for the code they create. I agree with you on the outcome; I'm not sure that I think it was startup culture that caused it, but rather any ecosystem where software was important and near ubiquitous would have evolved roughly the same way. For my own hobby code, I don't see any practical benefit to GPL over MIT. I want my code to be reusable in as many cases as possible. I've seen the toxic treatment AGPL code gets (AFAICT, the main value of that license is to companies who offer dual licenses) and the wary treatment GPL v3 (or worse "v3 or later") code gets.

mxuribe 7y ago

> ...grew into startup culture, not FOSS/copyleft culture Your comment there is quite powerful - and i believe true! So, ok, what are next steps in discovering similar high quality content like Linux Journal? Because as it happens, my discovery mode for finding good content is hacker news...though half of the things i ignore because they tend to shift the way of startup culture, which while entertaining, isn't as fulfilling as true FOSS/copyleft culture. So, do you - or anyone else here - have any recommendations to find good content like Linux Journal or any other FOSS/copyleft culture content but through an aggregated site like hacker news? (I use HN not because i'm lazy but because of lack of time; again half of stuff discovered is meh, the other half is good.)

dragonquest 7y ago
LWN.net (mentioned elsewhere on the thread) is quite good for finding FOSS related content.
- mxuribe 7y ago
  Thanks; I'll give it a try!