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I would rather donate to them directly, personally.

• self_awareness 7y ago
  Isn't Patreon a direct donation?
  • SSchick 7y ago
    They do take a cut, that's their business model.
    • paulryanrogers 7y ago
      10% not including payment processing fees. I know they need to keep the lights on but that seems steep to me.
      • ygjb 7y ago
        seems like a lot of room for competition...
        • otachack 7y ago
          Maybe Epic will get in on it
        • nabla9 7y ago
          Online payment system is typical platform business where network effect dominates. There are multiple competitors for Patreon, but they can't get off the ground because they don't have the users because they don't have the creators because they don't have the users.... You can build much better platform and it's just crickets in the sales because operating costs on smaller userbase are higher. Small competitor might force Patreon to reduce prices a little until they can kill the competition, but it's hard to have stable competitors. Businesses that already have massive number of customer subscriptions and brand recognition could enter the market.
      • dtech 7y ago
        It used to be 5% and they recently upped it to 8% for new creators.
        • Kye 7y ago
          It's 8% for what used to be standard. 5% is for a new stripped down version. https://www.patreon.com/product/pricing https://www.patreon.com/product/pricing
          • dtech 7y ago
            Incorrect: https://techcrunch.com/2019/03/19/patreon-ups-its-revenue-cut-but-grandfathers-in-old-creators/ https://techcrunch.com/2019/03/19/patreon-ups-its-revenue-cu... The current 8% plan used to be 5%. Their current 5% plan is stripped down.
            • Kye 7y ago
              I think we're saying the same thing. What I said, rephrased for clarity: It used to be 5% for all features. That's what the 8% plan is now. The new and current 5% plan is the stripped down version. What you said, by my understanding: the 8% plan contains what used to be the only option [standard, by my phrasing] at 5%. I don't see any disagreement unless you were referring to the discounts given to existing creators. I'm talking about the new creator rates.
      • chipotle_coyote 7y ago
        Patreon has three membership plans for creators, none of which are actually 10%. :) The basic one is 5%, the "pro" one is 8%, and the "premium" one is 12%, which is targeted more at companies/teams than individuals. (It comes with a dedicated account manager and I believe some kind of shipping/fulfillment system for physical merchandise.) Their payment processing fees are also actually lower than what you'd pay Stripe directly for pledges of $3 and under. Patreon isn't problem-free, but I think they get dinged a little too hard by folks sometimes. It's not very easy to find a competitor that offers comparable value-added services at significantly lower cost.
  • jedberg 7y ago
    Minus the Patreon fees.
    • bigiain 7y ago
      And plus the occasional Patreon douchbaggery...