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A $200 DIY hardware cost (equivalent cloud price quoted as $5000 in the article) suggests that, for $4800/mo, you too can do Dev Ops yourself. For a lot of peop

A $200 DIY hardware cost (equivalent cloud price quoted as $5000 in the article) suggests that, for $4800/mo, you too can do Dev Ops yourself. For a lot of people, that proposition is a hard pass. You want enterprise-grade backups. If your availability drops, your business will lose credibility. Also, good luck finding a Dev Ops engineer for $57,600 a year.

ElFitz 7y ago
Not even really 57,600$. Over here, a person costs their company 1.5x the salary written in their contract (and nearly 2x their "take-home" salary). And most developed countries have something similar (more or less). So the salary we're really talking about actually is less than 40k a year. Good luck ^^'
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gbuk2013 7y ago
Good luck finding a Cloud Engineer for that money to manage your cloud-based infrastructure. ;) Because it’s not going to manage itself, not if you are doing anything remotely complex. And even if you are not doing complex things, DYI is only for techies, cloud or not.
- stickfigure 7y ago
  That depends on your definition of 'cloud'. If your app fits into existing PaaS models (Google App Engine, Heroku, et al) then you can dispense with the ops/devops team entirely. Yeah, they're expensive, but nowhere near as expensive as hiring.
- derefr 7y ago
  You’ll have infrastructure deployment engineers no matter what you do. But you’ll only need infra ops staff (as opposed to application ops staff) if you’re running your own infra. There’s nobody you pay, in your own company, to sit around watching S3 or Lambda or SQS for degradation. That ops service is part of AWS’s job that you pay for through each service’s fee structure.
  - gbuk2013 7y ago
    Except, TFA talks about renting a server rather than running your own infrastructure. ;) Sure, with AWS there is less work to do (if you have the skills to set it up in the first place, or it’s £££ time) but TFA is right in that you get much worse performance per £.
ht85 7y ago
Comparing it to a full time job is not really fair. From my experience, doing sysadmin for a single server only takes time initially. You might spend a couple weeks full time to get everything going, but 6 months in it's probably only a couple hours a week.

ElFitz 7y ago

Not even really 57,600$. Over here, a person costs their company 1.5x the salary written in their contract (and nearly 2x their "take-home" salary). And most developed countries have something similar (more or less). So the salary we're really talking about actually is less than 40k a year. Good luck ^^'

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gbuk2013 7y ago

Good luck finding a Cloud Engineer for that money to manage your cloud-based infrastructure. ;) Because it’s not going to manage itself, not if you are doing anything remotely complex. And even if you are not doing complex things, DYI is only for techies, cloud or not.

stickfigure 7y ago
That depends on your definition of 'cloud'. If your app fits into existing PaaS models (Google App Engine, Heroku, et al) then you can dispense with the ops/devops team entirely. Yeah, they're expensive, but nowhere near as expensive as hiring.
derefr 7y ago
You’ll have infrastructure deployment engineers no matter what you do. But you’ll only need infra ops staff (as opposed to application ops staff) if you’re running your own infra. There’s nobody you pay, in your own company, to sit around watching S3 or Lambda or SQS for degradation. That ops service is part of AWS’s job that you pay for through each service’s fee structure.
- gbuk2013 7y ago
  Except, TFA talks about renting a server rather than running your own infrastructure. ;) Sure, with AWS there is less work to do (if you have the skills to set it up in the first place, or it’s £££ time) but TFA is right in that you get much worse performance per £.

ht85 7y ago

Comparing it to a full time job is not really fair. From my experience, doing sysadmin for a single server only takes time initially. You might spend a couple weeks full time to get everything going, but 6 months in it's probably only a couple hours a week.