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Honest Question, how do I support our IE 11 Customers (8% of our MRR) with this approach?

Roboprog 7y ago
Alas, about 50% of mine. Many government and healthcare organizations STILL using Internet Exploder, presumably until its 2025 end of life:-(
- spaced-out 7y ago
  >presumably until its 2025 end of life Oh you sweet summer child...
  - Roboprog 7y ago
    Wishful thinking? PS - this “child” started working as a developer, at least part time, back in 1985 C++ eventually passed into a bad memory, and so will MSIE.
- collinmanderson 7y ago
  2025 end of life for IE11? Do you have a source for that? As far as I know, Microsoft plans to keep IE11 around as long as Windows exists.
mjevans 7y ago
That really depends on how quickly you can deprecate browsers that don't support modern features. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Edge https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Edge Edge is supposedly an option even back to Windows 7, though I don't believe it's a required security update. I haven't used a Windows 7 system in long enough that I'm not sure. https://caniuse.com/css-grid https://caniuse.com/css-grid At this point it is reasonable to tell people they NEED to install a more modern (and more security up to date!) web browser, be it Google Chrome, Microsoft Edge, or Mozilla Firefox.
Theodores 7y ago
Easy if you don't have to have it pixel perfect for them. Just build it out with CSS Grid and the CSS variables, then look at the broken mess on IE and make it work. Who cares if things are not centered on IE11. It is not an HTML5 browser and is only there for legacy support - ActiveX and all that. Also add a banner at the top telling people they need to use their other browser for the page. What business are you in where 8% are still on IE11?
- Roritharr 7y ago
  SME Finance Management for Europe (mostly D/A/CH), think of it as Xero/Freshbooks with very country specific features.
  - Theodores 7y ago
    COBOL springs to mind. It sounds like you have a profitable niche supporting legacy stuff. Edge came out five years ago and IE11 was depreciated. You can try the polyfill approach. This is generally not recommended as it wastes bandwidth. But since your customers have bandwidth you could go with polyfills. Or just stay stuck in the past with a niche of writing IE11 compatible stuff. That could be career limiting, IE11 is getting as irrelevant as 8.3 FAT filenames.

Alas, about 50% of mine. Many government and healthcare organizations STILL using Internet Exploder, presumably until its 2025 end of life:-(

spaced-out 7y ago
>presumably until its 2025 end of life Oh you sweet summer child...
- Roboprog 7y ago
  Wishful thinking? PS - this “child” started working as a developer, at least part time, back in 1985 C++ eventually passed into a bad memory, and so will MSIE.
collinmanderson 7y ago
2025 end of life for IE11? Do you have a source for that? As far as I know, Microsoft plans to keep IE11 around as long as Windows exists.

mjevans 7y ago

That really depends on how quickly you can deprecate browsers that don't support modern features. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Edge https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Edge Edge is supposedly an option even back to Windows 7, though I don't believe it's a required security update. I haven't used a Windows 7 system in long enough that I'm not sure. https://caniuse.com/css-grid https://caniuse.com/css-grid At this point it is reasonable to tell people they NEED to install a more modern (and more security up to date!) web browser, be it Google Chrome, Microsoft Edge, or Mozilla Firefox.

Theodores 7y ago

Easy if you don't have to have it pixel perfect for them. Just build it out with CSS Grid and the CSS variables, then look at the broken mess on IE and make it work. Who cares if things are not centered on IE11. It is not an HTML5 browser and is only there for legacy support - ActiveX and all that. Also add a banner at the top telling people they need to use their other browser for the page. What business are you in where 8% are still on IE11?

Roritharr 7y ago
SME Finance Management for Europe (mostly D/A/CH), think of it as Xero/Freshbooks with very country specific features.
- Theodores 7y ago
  COBOL springs to mind. It sounds like you have a profitable niche supporting legacy stuff. Edge came out five years ago and IE11 was depreciated. You can try the polyfill approach. This is generally not recommended as it wastes bandwidth. But since your customers have bandwidth you could go with polyfills. Or just stay stuck in the past with a niche of writing IE11 compatible stuff. That could be career limiting, IE11 is getting as irrelevant as 8.3 FAT filenames.