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I think the default should be: Don't use any JavaScript if you don't have to. And if you have to, use it responsibly. Recommended reading: - "Responsible Java

I think the default should be: Don't use any JavaScript if you don't have to. And if you have to, use it responsibly. Recommended reading: - "Responsible JavaScript: Part I" by Jeremy Wagner (https://alistapart.com/article/responsible-javascript-part-1/ https://alistapart.com/article/responsible-javascript-part-1...) - "A JavaScript-Free Frontend" by Matt Reyer (https://dev.to/winduptoy/a-javascript-free-frontend-2d3e https://dev.to/winduptoy/a-javascript-free-frontend-2d3e) Disclaimer: I'm from Germany, but have a 6-y/o Android phone and live in a rural area with poor EDGE connectivity (~50kb/s). Most "modern" websites don't load/work for me.

efficax 7y ago
javascript rules, and you can't build truly interactive sites without it (try to build a refine-as-you-type search bar with just html and css). Here's my hot take: JS is good and has made the web better.
- mark_and_sweep 7y ago
  Here's my hot take: Instead of waiting 20s for your truly interactive site with refine-as-you-type search bar to load, which, when finally loaded, will lag so much on my mobile connection that it is just plain annoying, I will use your competitor's site which loads within 1s and has a plain old <input> field for search. Not every site needs to be truly interactive. Not every site needs JS. Unless you're building a 3G+ or desktop-only web experience, use it responsibly.
  - realmod 7y ago
    And everytime I want to change anything at all or see updated data, I'll have to reload the page. JS has objectively made the web better.
- progval 7y ago
  > javascript rules, and you can't build truly interactive sites without it But does the website you're building need to be interactive? Usually not, unless it's a webapp. (Maybe for form validation but that's pretty much it.)
- davidwparker 7y ago
  Challenge accepted! https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/datalist https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/da...

efficax 7y ago

javascript rules, and you can't build truly interactive sites without it (try to build a refine-as-you-type search bar with just html and css). Here's my hot take: JS is good and has made the web better.

mark_and_sweep 7y ago
Here's my hot take: Instead of waiting 20s for your truly interactive site with refine-as-you-type search bar to load, which, when finally loaded, will lag so much on my mobile connection that it is just plain annoying, I will use your competitor's site which loads within 1s and has a plain old <input> field for search. Not every site needs to be truly interactive. Not every site needs JS. Unless you're building a 3G+ or desktop-only web experience, use it responsibly.
- realmod 7y ago
  And everytime I want to change anything at all or see updated data, I'll have to reload the page. JS has objectively made the web better.
progval 7y ago
> javascript rules, and you can't build truly interactive sites without it But does the website you're building need to be interactive? Usually not, unless it's a webapp. (Maybe for form validation but that's pretty much it.)
davidwparker 7y ago
Challenge accepted! https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/datalist https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/da...