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In no US jurisdiction are you allowed to cut out someone's heart and store it under your floor. You're also not allowed to threaten someone that you'll do this
by paggle 7y ago
In no US jurisdiction are you allowed to cut out someone's heart and store it under your floor. You're also not allowed to threaten someone that you'll do this to them, or incite others to do the same. You're not allowed to get on a street corner and say "The time has come to find Bob Jones, drag him out of his house, and cut his heart out of his chest."
You are, however, allowed in all jurisdictions to write a story like Edgar Allan Poe's "The Tell-Tale Heart" where the narrator does the same.
The question that arises in rap music is, when the rapper says, "Imma kill Bob Jones and cut his heart out his chest," is it more like the former or the latter? Is the "I" the rapper, or like Poe's narrator? It's a hard question for the law, because yes, the distinction between a novelist and a rapper is deeply tied into structural discrimination along lines of race and class, but also there are many more rappers than novelists who become the perpetrators and victims of violent deaths.
- andsam 7y agothe paper posits that judicial systems treat rappers as the 1st when it means stronger sentencing and as the 2nd when the lyrics could mitigate their liability its all fiction until it means ruining someone's life
- x86_64Ubuntu 7y agoWhere are all the free-speech zealots from the "CloudFlare shuts down 8chan" thread?
- bluntfang 7y agohacker news is a bubble of mostly middle class white male libertarians. what would you expect?
- s_y_n_t_a_x 7y agoLiberals, yes. Libertarians, haha no.
- bluntfang 7y agothere's too many "choose to leave your job" posts that get upvoted for there not to be a libertarian majority.
- uxp100 7y agoIn this thread, saying it's bad when this is done?
- TomMckenny 7y agoThey are zealots, but not for free speech.
- TomMckenny 7y agoOf course, Bob Jones died 20 years ago of natural causes. And ironically, it was Bob Jones who directly said that student protesters (like those at Kent State) should be shot. Yet he is not cited as evidence in mass shootings. So while there is some abstract principle about hypothetical fiction vs intentional directive. There is something going on other than rational and even application of a principle. Likewise, I imagine very few young men of color are found not guilty on the Twinky Defense.
- AnimalMuppet 7y agoSwitch genres, and go back to the days when you had to have grounds for divorce. Here's a country song about meeting some lady in a bar and sleeping with her. Did that give the singer's wife grounds for divorce? No. So why is it different if it's rap?
- zaccus 7y ago"I shot a man in Reno, just to watch him die."