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Here goes some feedback, hopefully we can gather some suggestions for Gabriel instead of saying 'Encrypted Google' all the time... In my opinion (using my desi

by joakin 16y ago

Here goes some feedback, hopefully we can gather some suggestions for Gabriel instead of saying 'Encrypted Google' all the time... In my opinion (using my designer side) the site lacks basic design, the text is well written, and the images make it really easy to read, but its missing some eye candy. Something to do would be structure each argument as a page/slide, and make the reading more like slides or a book. In my opinion, -quite ironic- you should have a look (copy format) from Google's 20thingsilearned [1], the book format, with the beautiful design and the animations would make the site stand out and more attractive to be read than it is now. But dont do as them, there is a pretty good job done keeping the text short and concise but informative and clear. If the site is kept well formatted as well as structured and 'playful' will continue to be a pleasure to read. Good luck with the campaign, happy to help to my default search engine :) [1] http://www.20thingsilearned.com/ http://www.20thingsilearned.com/

Kadin 16y ago
Ugh, disagree. I detest the online-slideshow thing, and often wish people would just take their "slides" and put them on the same page and just let me scroll. Whenever I see someone doing a slideshow-type presentation, my immediate assumption is that they are just dragging me through the process so they can get more eyeballs for their advertising. (Cf. much of Cracked.com and other "Top x Lists".) There are things that could be done to make the page more appealing, if you're not into the lowdef look that I think they're going for intentionally, but breaking it into multiple pages if it does't really have to be is just obnoxious.
- epi0Bauqu 16y ago
  Yes, I wanted to keep the lowdef look, though I'm happy to entertain any design changes within that look.
  - joakin 16y ago
    What about a scrolling format but more visually appealing? Something like benthebodyguard.com [1] In light colors avoiding the darkness but funnier to scroll [1] http://benthebodyguard.com/ http://benthebodyguard.com/
    - potatolicious 16y ago
      I'm not sure if Ben the Bodyguard qualifies as "low-def". The problem with heavy designs like this is that they look great, but their efficacy is rarely ever supported by raw data.
- joakin 16y ago
  Ok, fair opinion, but if you look at the google website, It doesnt look neither spammy nor disgusting (at least for the regular user (i think). Its clean, informative, and fun to use. Anyway, A/B test should give him the answer to which is the best way to aproach the Google non-techy crowd
notahacker 16y ago
Ironically your example site is not only a Google property, but also raises a "this website is asking to store data on your computer" security warning and runs horribly slowly in my browser (maybe I'm guilty of having too many tabs open, but maybe they're guilty of optimising for Chrome...). For casual browsing I'd much rather scroll than click the right hand side of the page and wait whilst Firefox thinks about running a page curl animation. Even with it working properly in Chrome I'd rather not be slowed down like that... For Gabriel's intended audience (presumably social media) the simplicity and silly cat memes probably work perfectly well without attempting to make it beautiful. For me, all the FUD simply makes me think "hang on, even if I use DuckDuckgo the site that built the Herpes landing page, optimised it for health advertisers and probably has Facebook widgets too gets all that information, and is far more likely to sell their data than Google...". I don't think HN is the target audience for that page. Given the recent spate of articles on how scraper sites that DDG blocks pollute Google results, I'd think a similar info page about how DDG's spam blacklist would go down nicely now though...

by joakin 16y ago

Kadin 16y ago

Ugh, disagree. I detest the online-slideshow thing, and often wish people would just take their "slides" and put them on the same page and just let me scroll. Whenever I see someone doing a slideshow-type presentation, my immediate assumption is that they are just dragging me through the process so they can get more eyeballs for their advertising. (Cf. much of Cracked.com and other "Top x Lists".) There are things that could be done to make the page more appealing, if you're not into the lowdef look that I think they're going for intentionally, but breaking it into multiple pages if it does't really have to be is just obnoxious.

epi0Bauqu 16y ago
Yes, I wanted to keep the lowdef look, though I'm happy to entertain any design changes within that look.
- joakin 16y ago
  What about a scrolling format but more visually appealing? Something like benthebodyguard.com [1] In light colors avoiding the darkness but funnier to scroll [1] http://benthebodyguard.com/ http://benthebodyguard.com/
  - potatolicious 16y ago
    I'm not sure if Ben the Bodyguard qualifies as "low-def". The problem with heavy designs like this is that they look great, but their efficacy is rarely ever supported by raw data.
joakin 16y ago
Ok, fair opinion, but if you look at the google website, It doesnt look neither spammy nor disgusting (at least for the regular user (i think). Its clean, informative, and fun to use. Anyway, A/B test should give him the answer to which is the best way to aproach the Google non-techy crowd

notahacker 16y ago

Ironically your example site is not only a Google property, but also raises a "this website is asking to store data on your computer" security warning and runs horribly slowly in my browser (maybe I'm guilty of having too many tabs open, but maybe they're guilty of optimising for Chrome...). For casual browsing I'd much rather scroll than click the right hand side of the page and wait whilst Firefox thinks about running a page curl animation. Even with it working properly in Chrome I'd rather not be slowed down like that... For Gabriel's intended audience (presumably social media) the simplicity and silly cat memes probably work perfectly well without attempting to make it beautiful. For me, all the FUD simply makes me think "hang on, even if I use DuckDuckgo the site that built the Herpes landing page, optimised it for health advertisers and probably has Facebook widgets too gets all that information, and is far more likely to sell their data than Google...". I don't think HN is the target audience for that page. Given the recent spate of articles on how scraper sites that DDG blocks pollute Google results, I'd think a similar info page about how DDG's spam blacklist would go down nicely now though...