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16 notes in the same sequence? that's too big of a coincidence
by ptah 7y ago
16 notes in the same sequence? that's too big of a coincidence
- vortico 7y agoIt's not 16 notes but three notes. C B A. The first note is repeated for a measure, the second is repeated for a half note, and the third is played once. Yes, it's undoubtedly a coincidence. See https://i.cbc.ca/1.5235857.1564861522!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/original_780/dark-horse.jpg https://i.cbc.ca/1.5235857.1564861522!/fileImage/httpImage/i...
- ptah 7y agothe repetition is super important. in modern music the rhythm is more important than the variety of tones. the same rhythm and the same tonal distance is too big to be a coincidence
- vortico 7y agoHow large do you think the design space is? Technically, it's enormous, maybe 8^15 possible melodies. But what about good-sounding melodies? That drastically reduces the space. What about memorable, good-sounding melodies? Most melodies aren't catchy, so that limits the space some more. What about culturally-appropriate, memorable, good-sounding melodies? It likely wouldn't make sense to use a Turkish opera melody in a pop song. Genres typically encompass a small space of melodies (e.g. Blues, Boogie Woogie). What about such melodies that follow a particular rhythm, or match the vocalist's range, or that follow a desired chord progression? After all this is considered, you're probably down to only a million combinations. But there are a billion songs out there...
- ptah 7y agothe range of notes in pentatonic scale is only five. but the rhythms (the important part of modern music) have a lot more combinations. katy perry's writers used the exact same rhythm with the same notes, which is highly improbable
- seandougall 7y agoYeah, one could just as easily claim that Joyful Noise ripped that motive off from Red Hot Chili Peppers' Snow (Hey Oh).
- thedaemon 7y agoYou are not a musician I take it. If you play punk style music, you are playing 8-16 of the same notes in a row. 16 notes are nothing.
- ptah 7y agoi am actually a musician, the rhythm is important and a sequence of 16 notes at the same rhythm and the same tonal distance is too big to be a coincidence
- officemonkey 7y agoSo you're saying that every "Boogie Woogie" piano song is infringing if they play more than two bars of a boogie woogie riff.
- ptah 7y agoeven in punk, it would be plagiarism if you have four sequences of 8 repeated notes but with 4 different tones
- randogogogo 7y agoI'm not really familiar with either song, but I do think it could be a coincidence. From a Music Theory perspective, they both appear to be in the key C (suddenly we're down to eight notes) and both in 4/4 time. Unfortunately the changes (chord progressions) aren't there but if this rests on melodic similarities then it's not hard for there to be similarities.