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Unless you're driving on a road, and heavy snow develops earlier or more severe than you and the weather service anticipated. Instead of going the next 2-3 mil

Unless you're driving on a road, and heavy snow develops earlier or more severe than you and the weather service anticipated. Instead of going the next 2-3 miles safely to your exit, your car will decide it's best for you to strand you in the middle of the motorway in white out conditions until the weather passes? Color me skeptical.

kd5bjo 7y ago
> Instead of going the next 2-3 miles safely to your exit You’re making an assumption here that the system is capable of continuing to travel safely. Obviously being safe at home is better than being stopped on the side of the road, but that’s not the choice you’re actually faced with. Similarly, a system that can operate safely in adverse conditions is obviously better than one that can’t.
- linuxftw 7y ago
  I know in my good-old human-driven mode of transport what choice I would make. I don't give automated driving any allowances, if it can't do what I do, it doesn't belong on the road.
  - kd5bjo 7y ago
    > I don't give automated driving any allowances, if it can't do what I do, it doesn't belong on the road In that case, you’re almost certainly grouping a lot of current and safe drivers in the “it doesn’t belong on the road” category. Not having lived in a place where I’ve needed to deal with white-out conditions myself, I doubt I’d feel comfortable continuing to drive. I know this about myself, though, and am likely more conservative than you about canceling or rescheduling a trip when such conditions are a possibility. This is the same bar that I’m proposing automatic driving systems need to meet; if that means they only work on cloudless days with 0% chance of rain, so be it. In practice, this means there’ll need to be some way for a human to take control for quite a while yet.

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Unless you're driving on a road, and heavy snow develops earlier or more severe than you and the weather service anticipated. Instead of going the next 2-3 mil

by linuxftw 7y ago

kd5bjo 7y ago
> Instead of going the next 2-3 miles safely to your exit You’re making an assumption here that the system is capable of continuing to travel safely. Obviously being safe at home is better than being stopped on the side of the road, but that’s not the choice you’re actually faced with. Similarly, a system that can operate safely in adverse conditions is obviously better than one that can’t.
- linuxftw 7y ago
  I know in my good-old human-driven mode of transport what choice I would make. I don't give automated driving any allowances, if it can't do what I do, it doesn't belong on the road.
  - kd5bjo 7y ago
    > I don't give automated driving any allowances, if it can't do what I do, it doesn't belong on the road In that case, you’re almost certainly grouping a lot of current and safe drivers in the “it doesn’t belong on the road” category. Not having lived in a place where I’ve needed to deal with white-out conditions myself, I doubt I’d feel comfortable continuing to drive. I know this about myself, though, and am likely more conservative than you about canceling or rescheduling a trip when such conditions are a possibility. This is the same bar that I’m proposing automatic driving systems need to meet; if that means they only work on cloudless days with 0% chance of rain, so be it. In practice, this means there’ll need to be some way for a human to take control for quite a while yet.