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>Of course as always in the case of Israel, there's vicious fallacious propaganda to paint Israel as a villain, claiming that villages that are miles away from

>Of course as always in the case of Israel, there's vicious fallacious propaganda to paint Israel as a villain, claiming that villages that are miles away from Jerusalem should be considered part of it and their residents should also be granted residency. irony: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kafr_%27Aqab https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kafr_%27Aqab >While Kafr 'Aqab was unilaterally annexed by Israel with the rest of East Jerusalem and falls under its full jurisdiction, it is separated from Jerusalem by the Israeli West Bank barrier. more @ https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium.MAGAZINE-15-years-of-separation-palestinians-cut-off-from-jerusalem-by-a-wall-1.5888001 https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium.MAGAZINE-15-yea... >"Much has been spoken and written about the Shoafat refugee camp (population: 30,000), which suffers from a dearth of infrastructure and from poverty. Kafr Aqab (25,000 inhabitants) and its adjacent neighborhoods are in a similar situation. Officially, they lie within Jerusalem’s municipal jurisdiction, but in practice, they receive woefully inadequate services from the city."

NeverFade 7y ago
Read the article you just linked: > Kafr 'Aqab is located 11.2 kilometers (7.0 mi) north of Central Jerusalem and 2 kilometers (1.2 mi) southeast of Ramallah. This village is literally 5 times closer to Ramallah than it is to Jerusalem. Jerusalem and Israel itself aren't very large, 7 miles is in fact a huge instance in Israel-scale. Someone saw a potential for political gain by describing a distant village as "a neighborhood of East Jerusalem", and you decided to repeat this propaganda. This conflict is rife with propaganda, I suggest you check your facts instead of unwittingly helping to spread disinformation.
- mlevental 7y ago
  you're retroactively declaring east jerusalem what the wall includes rather than what was east jerusalem really is (or was). here is east jerusalem according to any city planning/organization definition https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5f/EastJerusalemMap.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5f/EastJeru... notice shufat refugee camp inside pre 67 municipality boundary here is how the wall partitioned east jerusalem https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/64/Jerusalem-barrier_June_2007-OCHAoPt.jpeg/1024px-Jerusalem-barrier_June_2007-OCHAoPt.jpeg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/64/Je... notice shufat and anata and etc being excluded. >This conflict is rife with propaganda, I suggest you check your facts instead of unwittingly helping to spread disinformation. you can keep repeating this as much as you want but so far you haven't presented any evidence to the contrary other that your own vociferous accusations.
  - NeverFade 7y ago
    You are linking random propaganda and trying to legitimize it with phrases like "here is east jerusalem according to any city planning/organization definition". Clearly the Israelis don't accept this definition. You are presenting an untenable Palestinian position as absolute truth. Nobody objective looking at this map would consider Kafr 'Aqab to be part of East Jerusalem. Someone drew an odd-shaped tentacle extending very far away from the city so it will be unnaturally and unreasonably included, for political purposes.
    - mlevental 7y ago
      i'm linking random propaganda? i linked the exact same thing you linked: the wiki on east jerusalem. here is the exact same map from bbc (sourced from btselem) https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/D92C/production/_97869555_east_jerusalem_detail_624map_v2.png https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/D92C/production/... the only propaganda being spread here is yours

NeverFade 7y ago

Read the article you just linked: > Kafr 'Aqab is located 11.2 kilometers (7.0 mi) north of Central Jerusalem and 2 kilometers (1.2 mi) southeast of Ramallah. This village is literally 5 times closer to Ramallah than it is to Jerusalem. Jerusalem and Israel itself aren't very large, 7 miles is in fact a huge instance in Israel-scale. Someone saw a potential for political gain by describing a distant village as "a neighborhood of East Jerusalem", and you decided to repeat this propaganda. This conflict is rife with propaganda, I suggest you check your facts instead of unwittingly helping to spread disinformation.

mlevental 7y ago
you're retroactively declaring east jerusalem what the wall includes rather than what was east jerusalem really is (or was). here is east jerusalem according to any city planning/organization definition https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5f/EastJerusalemMap.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5f/EastJeru... notice shufat refugee camp inside pre 67 municipality boundary here is how the wall partitioned east jerusalem https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/64/Jerusalem-barrier_June_2007-OCHAoPt.jpeg/1024px-Jerusalem-barrier_June_2007-OCHAoPt.jpeg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/64/Je... notice shufat and anata and etc being excluded. >This conflict is rife with propaganda, I suggest you check your facts instead of unwittingly helping to spread disinformation. you can keep repeating this as much as you want but so far you haven't presented any evidence to the contrary other that your own vociferous accusations.
- NeverFade 7y ago
  You are linking random propaganda and trying to legitimize it with phrases like "here is east jerusalem according to any city planning/organization definition". Clearly the Israelis don't accept this definition. You are presenting an untenable Palestinian position as absolute truth. Nobody objective looking at this map would consider Kafr 'Aqab to be part of East Jerusalem. Someone drew an odd-shaped tentacle extending very far away from the city so it will be unnaturally and unreasonably included, for political purposes.
  - mlevental 7y ago
    i'm linking random propaganda? i linked the exact same thing you linked: the wiki on east jerusalem. here is the exact same map from bbc (sourced from btselem) https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/D92C/production/_97869555_east_jerusalem_detail_624map_v2.png https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/D92C/production/... the only propaganda being spread here is yours