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> Infact, a 1 star Sterling box truck will probably cut a Tesla with a 5 star rating in half. Guess who's walking away almost 100% of the time? So what is the

> Infact, a 1 star Sterling box truck will probably cut a Tesla with a 5 star rating in half. Guess who's walking away almost 100% of the time? So what is the average risk of injury in all of the following situations for each of these vehicles (Sterling box truck, Tesla Model 3)? - 50 mph against a thick wall - 50 mph against a Sterling box truck - 50 mph against a random car - 50 mph into a dense forest - 50 mph falling off a 50 foot ledge And what's the average risk of getting into these situations, for weighting? My point is that a Sterling box truck might crush a Tesla Model 3, but the vehicle's own mass isn't always helping and with no airbags and crumple zones the risk of injury is still higher in many common situations. So let's not overrate one particular situation vs a large truck.

dragontamer 7y ago
You missed a common, realistic, situation. 50mph Model 3 vs a 50mph Sterling Box Truck. Situations when OTHER objects run into you. Its unfortunate, but people "armor up" and buy heavier vehicles for safety in these situations.
zelon88 7y ago
And my point is that, statistically, if you want the lowest risk of injury in the real world you'll buy the one star box truck because you'll have triple the mass of 90% of the vehicles that could possibly hit you. Everybody buys 5 star cars. So there's an abundance of them. When a Chevy Spark crashes into a Toyota Corolla it's a good representation of what crash tests simulate. Sure they could make every car crash into a semi truck and give them a rating but none of the dummies would survive. None of them. Even the mighty Tesla. But trucker Bob goes home to his family at the end of every shift. They would be grading flaming chunks of steel and plastic all day. That's why I drive an SUV. Because I'm broke and can't afford a new "safe" car, but in all liklihood I'm bigger than the median vehicle size so that gives me comfort.
- lazyjones 7y ago
  > And my point is that, statistically, if you want the lowest risk of injury in the real world you'll buy the one star box truck because you'll have triple the mass of 90% of the vehicles that could possibly hit you. Not all crashes involve other vehicles, you have to take into account the frequency of crashes vs. the environment.

dragontamer 7y ago

You missed a common, realistic, situation. 50mph Model 3 vs a 50mph Sterling Box Truck. Situations when OTHER objects run into you. Its unfortunate, but people "armor up" and buy heavier vehicles for safety in these situations.

zelon88 7y ago

And my point is that, statistically, if you want the lowest risk of injury in the real world you'll buy the one star box truck because you'll have triple the mass of 90% of the vehicles that could possibly hit you. Everybody buys 5 star cars. So there's an abundance of them. When a Chevy Spark crashes into a Toyota Corolla it's a good representation of what crash tests simulate. Sure they could make every car crash into a semi truck and give them a rating but none of the dummies would survive. None of them. Even the mighty Tesla. But trucker Bob goes home to his family at the end of every shift. They would be grading flaming chunks of steel and plastic all day. That's why I drive an SUV. Because I'm broke and can't afford a new "safe" car, but in all liklihood I'm bigger than the median vehicle size so that gives me comfort.

lazyjones 7y ago
> And my point is that, statistically, if you want the lowest risk of injury in the real world you'll buy the one star box truck because you'll have triple the mass of 90% of the vehicles that could possibly hit you. Not all crashes involve other vehicles, you have to take into account the frequency of crashes vs. the environment.