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This paragraph made me smile: >Elsevier alleges that “one senior library official has repeatedly pointed to illegal sources of articles, including a Russia-bas

by Jerry2 7y ago

This paragraph made me smile: >Elsevier alleges that “one senior library official has repeatedly pointed to illegal sources of articles, including a Russia-based piracy site.” >We are unaware of any library employee who has been directing users to illegal sources of articles. On the contrary, UC explicitly published a statement on its website, in response to questions asked by users, that states: “The UC Libraries do not endorse the use of Sci-Hub for article access.”30 As the UC Berkeley university librarian said in a published interview, “we are unequivocal: it is our understanding (though we are not attorneys!) that Sci-Hub is in violation of U.S. copyright law. We will not advise nor help anyone to use it.” By naming Sci-hub.tw, they're basically educating people that there's a way to get articles they want but it might be less than legal than some other methods.

buboard 7y ago
There was a thread on twitter about how important it is not to talk about sci-hub. Please tell your friends not to use sci-hub to instantly download any science article. Sci-hub and its various domains which can be found by searching "where is sci hub now" must be stopped from their criminal violation of intellectual rights law. I repeat, do not talk about sci hub https://twitter.com/NeuroPolarbear/status/1157470106101985280 https://twitter.com/NeuroPolarbear/status/115747010610198528...
- dmitriz 7y ago
  And under no circumstances you should tell anyone to edit the URL by inserting their illegal domain name after the article's, as that would directly, and importantly - illegally, download the article.
  - buboard 7y ago
    people beware: do not create a browser toolbar bookmark with this link. it will instantly download any article from sci-hub, which is illegal and wrong. You should never use sci-hub, in fact you should avoid mentioning sci hub to anyone who might be interested in sci hub. javascript:window.location='http:/'+'/sci-hub.tw/'+window.location
garmaine 7y ago
"Note: The UC Libraries do not endorse using Sci-Hub for article access. Using Sci-Hub circumvents cumbersome publisher paywalls to access content illegally. The Sci-Hub interface hosted at https://sci-hub.tw/ https://sci-hub.tw/ proxies requests and does not use login credentials, so access to research cannot be tracked the publishers in violation of copyright. The UC faculty and staff and the regents of the University of California would certainly not want students to directly access research papers for free by using Sci-Hub in this way. As there is no way to catch and punish students who use Sci-Hub to conveniently access research papers, we have made this public notice to inform the student body to not use Sci-Hub, not matter how convenient and accessible it might be. We repeat: do not use Sci-Hub, hosted at https://sci-hub.tw/ https://sci-hub.tw/, to freely download published research from any computer."
- zaroth 7y ago
  If this is hyperbole, please remove the quotes. If this is an actual quote, please cite it! Ether way it's hilarious, but it would help to be clear.
  - grepthisab 7y ago
    I don't think they need to cite something that's literally in the text of the posted article. This is a comment section to comment on that very article!
    - scott_s 7y ago
      I don't think that's true - I can find the opening sentence in the submission, as well as in their FAQ and an interview, but not the rest of the paragraph, and in particular, not the implicit instructions for how to access Sci-Hub.
  - brianzelip 7y ago
    Pretty sure it's hyperbole. Here's the page linked to from the OP, "Access to Elsevier Articles", that mentions (only) the first line in the quote above. [0] https://osc.universityofcalifornia.edu/open-access-at-uc/publisher-negotiations/alternative-access-to-articles/ https://osc.universityofcalifornia.edu/open-access-at-uc/pub...
zstiefler 7y ago
This reminds me of what vineyards did during the prohibition, selling “grape bricks” and explicitly instructing people to NOT dissolve in water and let sit for 21 days or it would turn into wine. https://vinepair.com/wine-blog/how-wine-bricks-saved-the-u-s-wine-industry-during-prohibition/ https://vinepair.com/wine-blog/how-wine-bricks-saved-the-u-s...

by Jerry2 7y ago

buboard 7y ago

There was a thread on twitter about how important it is not to talk about sci-hub. Please tell your friends not to use sci-hub to instantly download any science article. Sci-hub and its various domains which can be found by searching "where is sci hub now" must be stopped from their criminal violation of intellectual rights law. I repeat, do not talk about sci hub https://twitter.com/NeuroPolarbear/status/1157470106101985280 https://twitter.com/NeuroPolarbear/status/115747010610198528...

dmitriz 7y ago
And under no circumstances you should tell anyone to edit the URL by inserting their illegal domain name after the article's, as that would directly, and importantly - illegally, download the article.
- buboard 7y ago
  people beware: do not create a browser toolbar bookmark with this link. it will instantly download any article from sci-hub, which is illegal and wrong. You should never use sci-hub, in fact you should avoid mentioning sci hub to anyone who might be interested in sci hub. javascript:window.location='http:/'+'/sci-hub.tw/'+window.location

garmaine 7y ago

"Note: The UC Libraries do not endorse using Sci-Hub for article access. Using Sci-Hub circumvents cumbersome publisher paywalls to access content illegally. The Sci-Hub interface hosted at https://sci-hub.tw/ https://sci-hub.tw/ proxies requests and does not use login credentials, so access to research cannot be tracked the publishers in violation of copyright. The UC faculty and staff and the regents of the University of California would certainly not want students to directly access research papers for free by using Sci-Hub in this way. As there is no way to catch and punish students who use Sci-Hub to conveniently access research papers, we have made this public notice to inform the student body to not use Sci-Hub, not matter how convenient and accessible it might be. We repeat: do not use Sci-Hub, hosted at https://sci-hub.tw/ https://sci-hub.tw/, to freely download published research from any computer."

zaroth 7y ago
If this is hyperbole, please remove the quotes. If this is an actual quote, please cite it! Ether way it's hilarious, but it would help to be clear.
- grepthisab 7y ago
  I don't think they need to cite something that's literally in the text of the posted article. This is a comment section to comment on that very article!
  - scott_s 7y ago
    I don't think that's true - I can find the opening sentence in the submission, as well as in their FAQ and an interview, but not the rest of the paragraph, and in particular, not the implicit instructions for how to access Sci-Hub.
- brianzelip 7y ago
  Pretty sure it's hyperbole. Here's the page linked to from the OP, "Access to Elsevier Articles", that mentions (only) the first line in the quote above. [0] https://osc.universityofcalifornia.edu/open-access-at-uc/publisher-negotiations/alternative-access-to-articles/ https://osc.universityofcalifornia.edu/open-access-at-uc/pub...

zstiefler 7y ago

This reminds me of what vineyards did during the prohibition, selling “grape bricks” and explicitly instructing people to NOT dissolve in water and let sit for 21 days or it would turn into wine. https://vinepair.com/wine-blog/how-wine-bricks-saved-the-u-s-wine-industry-during-prohibition/ https://vinepair.com/wine-blog/how-wine-bricks-saved-the-u-s...