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An American version of tabelog would be amazing but idk if it would ever happen It's something I've wanted to do for awhile. Do Things that idk yelp does like

by tayo42 7y ago

An American version of tabelog would be amazing but idk if it would ever happen It's something I've wanted to do for awhile. Do Things that idk yelp does like give older ratings less weight. I also think the the ratings are mostly useless. 4 1/2 star restaurants in the same area are not comparable. The rounding to half puts restaurants that are miles apart to close together. Ratings below 3 are useless. Sushi in sf is frustrating with yelp. Michelin stared restaurants have the same ratings as local sushi places. The whole scale needs to be used. There also needs to be separate ratings for food and service. Places get hit hard for unreasonable service expectations when the food is great. I'm pretty sure the average yelp reviewer has crap taste in food. Especially in tourist areas.

daemin 7y ago
You mean only allow people to "thumbs up" or "thumbs down" a place, and then aggregate the results to form a sort of star rating? I mean because you've either had a good experience or a bad one, and if you've had an average experience why post a review?
- tayo42 7y ago
  I think for ratings the whole scale 1-5 should be used and a user should be able to rate with a decimal point of precision. And show ratings to the second decimal place. I think that would remove reviews like "great 5 stars" or poor service 1 star. Average reviews should be added. I don't think every restaurant is perfectly average. Some are better, do a dish particularly well, have some thing else that might just slightly set it apart. Others might be average but unusually cheap. All of that can be part of an average review and influence a rating and help people find meals they're in the mood for.
  - aledalgrande 7y ago
    A service I loved in UK was Hardens, all restaurants reviewed for FSA (Food, Service, Ambience) by customers. It was very reliable. Much better than a single generic rating. Agree with most people on Yelp having bad taste.
julianlam 7y ago
I completely agree that this is a blind spot that current has no solution because it is ignored. One can argue that a Michelin star restaurant is objectively better than the neighborhood McDonald's, but they could have identical ratings because the expectation of service is different. What is considered above and beyond at McD's is merely baseline at the other. However it also works in reverse as well! Many sit-down Chinese restaurants in my area are rated poorly due to substandard service, but this is de rigeur at these establishments. The waitress is gruff, rushes you along, gives you the bill before you are ready, and in some cases, you have to make your own tea because they're too busy. The food could be great but the ratings don't show it.
smsm42 7y ago
> 4 1/2 star restaurants in the same area are not comparable This. If I am not local, I can't know if 4.5* listing is a local diner that locals love, not necessarily for the quality of food, or a venerable Michelin-starred restaurant. Photos and descriptions do not always help.

by tayo42 7y ago

daemin 7y ago

You mean only allow people to "thumbs up" or "thumbs down" a place, and then aggregate the results to form a sort of star rating? I mean because you've either had a good experience or a bad one, and if you've had an average experience why post a review?

tayo42 7y ago
I think for ratings the whole scale 1-5 should be used and a user should be able to rate with a decimal point of precision. And show ratings to the second decimal place. I think that would remove reviews like "great 5 stars" or poor service 1 star. Average reviews should be added. I don't think every restaurant is perfectly average. Some are better, do a dish particularly well, have some thing else that might just slightly set it apart. Others might be average but unusually cheap. All of that can be part of an average review and influence a rating and help people find meals they're in the mood for.
- aledalgrande 7y ago
  A service I loved in UK was Hardens, all restaurants reviewed for FSA (Food, Service, Ambience) by customers. It was very reliable. Much better than a single generic rating. Agree with most people on Yelp having bad taste.

julianlam 7y ago

I completely agree that this is a blind spot that current has no solution because it is ignored. One can argue that a Michelin star restaurant is objectively better than the neighborhood McDonald's, but they could have identical ratings because the expectation of service is different. What is considered above and beyond at McD's is merely baseline at the other. However it also works in reverse as well! Many sit-down Chinese restaurants in my area are rated poorly due to substandard service, but this is de rigeur at these establishments. The waitress is gruff, rushes you along, gives you the bill before you are ready, and in some cases, you have to make your own tea because they're too busy. The food could be great but the ratings don't show it.

smsm42 7y ago

> 4 1/2 star restaurants in the same area are not comparable This. If I am not local, I can't know if 4.5* listing is a local diner that locals love, not necessarily for the quality of food, or a venerable Michelin-starred restaurant. Photos and descriptions do not always help.