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What earthly purpose would that serve? They're scientists; they subscribe to a moral system. Subscribing to an ethical system involves arguing it through rhetor

What earthly purpose would that serve? They're scientists; they subscribe to a moral system. Subscribing to an ethical system involves arguing it through rhetoric and reasoning. Scientists are only expected to be politically neutral; they're not Uatu the Watcher.

fromthestart 7y ago
The problem here is the misleading implication that there is a singular set of correct ethics, hidden behind a false appeal to scientific authority.
- bscphil 7y ago
  Don't the vast majority of people think there is a singular set of correct ethics? Why do you think otherwise? The mere fact that there is wide disagreement about some ethical questions doesn't help the argument (as some people think), because there are all sorts of very controversial questions where it's still commonly accepted that these questions have a correct answer.
  - leni536 7y ago
    > Don't the vast majority of people think there is a singular set of correct ethics? I agree that maybe most people believe in objective morality, but moral relativism exists and I don't think that it's so unpopular that it's insignificant. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_relativism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_relativism
  - coldtea 7y ago
    >Don't the vast majority of people think there is a singular set of correct ethics? Why do you think otherwise? No, the vast majority of people don't think there's a singular set of correct ethics, and especially not one where "eating octopus is unethical" is a tenet.
coldtea 7y ago
>What earthly purpose would that serve? They're scientists; they subscribe to a moral system. The moral system is unrelated to their scientific advice. It also doesn't cover the "don't eat X animals" part, as even for their society (e.g. USA) that's debatable ethically, and not something the generally acceptable moral system holds.

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What earthly purpose would that serve? They're scientists; they subscribe to a moral system. Subscribing to an ethical system involves arguing it through rhetor

by john-radio 7y ago

fromthestart 7y ago
The problem here is the misleading implication that there is a singular set of correct ethics, hidden behind a false appeal to scientific authority.
- bscphil 7y ago
  Don't the vast majority of people think there is a singular set of correct ethics? Why do you think otherwise? The mere fact that there is wide disagreement about some ethical questions doesn't help the argument (as some people think), because there are all sorts of very controversial questions where it's still commonly accepted that these questions have a correct answer.
  - leni536 7y ago
    > Don't the vast majority of people think there is a singular set of correct ethics? I agree that maybe most people believe in objective morality, but moral relativism exists and I don't think that it's so unpopular that it's insignificant. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_relativism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_relativism
  - coldtea 7y ago
    >Don't the vast majority of people think there is a singular set of correct ethics? Why do you think otherwise? No, the vast majority of people don't think there's a singular set of correct ethics, and especially not one where "eating octopus is unethical" is a tenet.
coldtea 7y ago
>What earthly purpose would that serve? They're scientists; they subscribe to a moral system. The moral system is unrelated to their scientific advice. It also doesn't cover the "don't eat X animals" part, as even for their society (e.g. USA) that's debatable ethically, and not something the generally acceptable moral system holds.