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That's the dream of Intel's "Optane DC Persistent Memory". As with most new technology though, it's still very expensive and currently targeted exclusively at e

That's the dream of Intel's "Optane DC Persistent Memory". As with most new technology though, it's still very expensive and currently targeted exclusively at enterprise solutions. Edit: 'exclusively' is a bit heavy handed, but for the sizes that a typical consumer would think of (250gb-2tb), it still isn't available outside of a simple cache drive. This link has a good breakdown: https://www.pcworld.com/article/3388135/everything-you-need-to-know-about-optane-right-now.html https://www.pcworld.com/article/3388135/everything-you-need-...

rl3 7y ago
>... but for the sizes that a typical consumer would think of (250gb-2tb), it still isn't available outside of a simple cache drive. The 900P and 905P series are Optane devices targeted towards prosumers presumably; they offer 280GB-1.5TB of storage. That said, they're still very expensive. I really wish Optane would get cheaper, or at least refresh faster. It's so utterly superior to NAND devices in terms of random access latency and endurance. All of my systems are Optane and it's amazing, but I feel the capacity squeeze since I can't afford the higher capacity drives. Intel's decision to offer small capacity cache devices was a mistake in my opinion. It was too confusing for the average consumer, and too complicated on a vendor support level. Their prosumer 900P series was initially PCI-E x4 AIC form factor, which was also a mistake in my opinion since they later followed up with proper U.2 and M.2 form factors. Likewise their enterprise offerings aren't really great in terms of availability. It's too many SKUs that represent poor vision and execution. In hindsight they should've just directly competed with Samsung NAND in M.2 form factor somehow. Sell at a loss for all I care; the tech is so superior to NAND that it deserves a much larger foothold than it currently has.
- ajflores1604 7y ago
  I haven't had the benefit of experiencing optane first hand, but the specs look insane to me. And I completely agree, Intel bumbled the whole strategy for it. And on top of the strategy, the marketing is abysmal, not just for optane but even their processor lines. This video laid out their new 10nm processor naming scheme (https://youtu.be/hzXKDQR_1d4 https://youtu.be/hzXKDQR_1d4) and at this point it seems malicious. Like they're trying to make it so consumers accidentally get the highest margin chip on the stack by getting a low power 'i7'. Or maybe hope consumers just stop trying to compare between processor skus, or head to head benchmarks against AMD, and instead focus on the brand that is 'intel inside'.

rl3 7y ago

>... but for the sizes that a typical consumer would think of (250gb-2tb), it still isn't available outside of a simple cache drive. The 900P and 905P series are Optane devices targeted towards prosumers presumably; they offer 280GB-1.5TB of storage. That said, they're still very expensive. I really wish Optane would get cheaper, or at least refresh faster. It's so utterly superior to NAND devices in terms of random access latency and endurance. All of my systems are Optane and it's amazing, but I feel the capacity squeeze since I can't afford the higher capacity drives. Intel's decision to offer small capacity cache devices was a mistake in my opinion. It was too confusing for the average consumer, and too complicated on a vendor support level. Their prosumer 900P series was initially PCI-E x4 AIC form factor, which was also a mistake in my opinion since they later followed up with proper U.2 and M.2 form factors. Likewise their enterprise offerings aren't really great in terms of availability. It's too many SKUs that represent poor vision and execution. In hindsight they should've just directly competed with Samsung NAND in M.2 form factor somehow. Sell at a loss for all I care; the tech is so superior to NAND that it deserves a much larger foothold than it currently has.

ajflores1604 7y ago
I haven't had the benefit of experiencing optane first hand, but the specs look insane to me. And I completely agree, Intel bumbled the whole strategy for it. And on top of the strategy, the marketing is abysmal, not just for optane but even their processor lines. This video laid out their new 10nm processor naming scheme (https://youtu.be/hzXKDQR_1d4 https://youtu.be/hzXKDQR_1d4) and at this point it seems malicious. Like they're trying to make it so consumers accidentally get the highest margin chip on the stack by getting a low power 'i7'. Or maybe hope consumers just stop trying to compare between processor skus, or head to head benchmarks against AMD, and instead focus on the brand that is 'intel inside'.