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We could get into a long, drawn-out discussion about whether the evidence is flimsy or not, but the fact of the matter is that it is evidence. End of story. The

We could get into a long, drawn-out discussion about whether the evidence is flimsy or not, but the fact of the matter is that it is evidence. End of story. The title didn't say, "Flimsy evidence," it said "No evidence." It's grossly incompetent of the media to misrepresent story after biased story as "evidence" and then attach a "without evidence" to the president's words just because they don't like the narrative. > Please find some hard data on tech demographics to support your data. You're the one that made the claim that tech demographics represent the general population. You're the one who needs to prove the claim.

throwaway5752 7y ago
I think the ship has sailed on this being drawn out. Since this post is flagged and unlikely to get further attention, I will indulge a bit more nested discussion than I would otherwise, though. I think you mean, "accusation". Google is accused of having bias. Evidence would constitute something that shows that the accusation is true. Since we are already parsing a headline, I'm going to have to be pedantic that "evidence" has specific meaning. It has common meaning, too, but I think I can lean on the president's own words: "All very illegal" puts this firmly in the judicial context. If the accusation was made under oath, under the penalty of perjury, then it could be considered evidence. Let me tell you this: if technology is a growing field and is difficult/increasingly requires specialized education it is going to have young and educated people on the whole. Furthermore, it has more immigrants and is more urban. If you correct for those factors (and a few others) you are going to find that tech is more conservative than you would otherwise expect. And tech demographics in SV is different than in Austin is different than in Minneapolis. On the whole the differences are much smaller than most people would believe. ps - while I disagree with you, I don't appreciate that you are being downvoted. I upvoted all your replies to try to counter that, and I would appreciate if people would resist the urge to reflexively downvote opinions they disagree with (which discourages discussions like this, which in my opinion, has been perfectly cordial)

throwaway5752 7y ago

I think the ship has sailed on this being drawn out. Since this post is flagged and unlikely to get further attention, I will indulge a bit more nested discussion than I would otherwise, though. I think you mean, "accusation". Google is accused of having bias. Evidence would constitute something that shows that the accusation is true. Since we are already parsing a headline, I'm going to have to be pedantic that "evidence" has specific meaning. It has common meaning, too, but I think I can lean on the president's own words: "All very illegal" puts this firmly in the judicial context. If the accusation was made under oath, under the penalty of perjury, then it could be considered evidence. Let me tell you this: if technology is a growing field and is difficult/increasingly requires specialized education it is going to have young and educated people on the whole. Furthermore, it has more immigrants and is more urban. If you correct for those factors (and a few others) you are going to find that tech is more conservative than you would otherwise expect. And tech demographics in SV is different than in Austin is different than in Minneapolis. On the whole the differences are much smaller than most people would believe. ps - while I disagree with you, I don't appreciate that you are being downvoted. I upvoted all your replies to try to counter that, and I would appreciate if people would resist the urge to reflexively downvote opinions they disagree with (which discourages discussions like this, which in my opinion, has been perfectly cordial)