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Dash cams are generally not legal in Austria for privacy reasons. This predates GDPR (article from 2013: https://www.oe24.at/oesterreich/politik/Video-Ueberwach

by AnssiH 7y ago

Dash cams are generally not legal in Austria for privacy reasons. This predates GDPR (article from 2013: https://www.oe24.at/oesterreich/politik/Video-Ueberwachung-aus-Privat-Auto-verboten/102701672 https://www.oe24.at/oesterreich/politik/Video-Ueberwachung-a...). I think nowadays dash cams might be allowed if they don't store the video unless an accident has occurred, but someone from Austria has to confirm.

t-writescode 7y ago
Interesting. Well, I guess that means I can’t visit Austria and drive. The dashcam is one of my coping mechanisms for OCD. I do get their concerns, though. I suspect they’re going to roll that back if insurance fraud increases.
- Fnoord 7y ago
  > The dashcam is one of my coping mechanisms for OCD. I don't understand. Care to explain?
  - t-writescode 7y ago
    One of the manifestations of my OCD is that if I hit a bump on the road, something as simple as a manhole cover that’s a few millimeters different in height or less, or if I spy someone emerging into my rear view mirror that I didn’t expect, or if someone is hiding behind a pole and I suddenly see them in my peripheral after passing them, my immediate and inconsolable thought is that I’ve hit them. To deal with it, I’ll do a lap around that spot to make sure I didn’t hit them. That lap can result in other bumps that I then have to make sure I didn’t hit anyone during. This can repeat for a very, very long time. To deal with it, I have a front and rear dashcam that I can go review the footage after I park. Of course I haven’t hit anyone, but the fear and stress that I might have is debilitating and can be for an hour. The dashcam allows me to review footage later; or, more often, calm myself long enough to think rationally and recognize what has happened as a moment of OCD and move on.
    - Fnoord 7y ago
      This appears anxiety related, with indeed the dashcam helping to cope with this specific occurrence. I don't know which other issues you have regarding anxiety, but you might want to look into a more global solution. If its only with regards to dashcams, then (depending on your demographics) avoiding driving in Austria is likely a better solution. Full disclosure: My previous diagnosis was GAD. Now I have an autism diagnosis. I use medication to feel less agitated and nervous. These work, for me, though also force me to zoom in less. YMMV.
      - t-writescode 7y ago
        I'm diagnosed with OCD and have many of the symptoms for it. It tends to stay relatively low-grade and not life impacting, so long as I do the thing I said here. When it gets out of hand, I need to remember to follow through more with what this book told me to do: https://www.amazon.com/Brain-Lock-Twentieth-Anniversary-Obsessive-Compulsive/dp/006256143X https://www.amazon.com/Brain-Lock-Twentieth-Anniversary-Obse... That's the one my therapist had recommended. I try to avoid medication, but that's a personal preference. I do hope you the best on your journey! edit: removed a word that made my sentence mean what I didn't mean for it to mean.
        Fnoord 7y ago
        Hey, though my comment was meant to be genuine I can, on reflection, understand that my comment got you angry. It did not occur to me that OCD could be a separate diagnosis even though I knew it is a specific ICD. Thanks for the book tip, I've added it to my list (I'm interested in related symptoms to [my] autism and some other PDs.)
- kawsper 7y ago
  The laws for this was recently refined in Denmark, you are allowed to run a buffer (so that you can record x minutes up to an accident) but you are not allowed to save it permanently without hitting a button.
  - t-writescode 7y ago
    Most dashcam I’ve seen have a running buffer of, e.g. 2 and a half hours. Would that be permitted?

by AnssiH 7y ago

t-writescode 7y ago

Interesting. Well, I guess that means I can’t visit Austria and drive. The dashcam is one of my coping mechanisms for OCD. I do get their concerns, though. I suspect they’re going to roll that back if insurance fraud increases.

Fnoord 7y ago
> The dashcam is one of my coping mechanisms for OCD. I don't understand. Care to explain?
- t-writescode 7y ago
  One of the manifestations of my OCD is that if I hit a bump on the road, something as simple as a manhole cover that’s a few millimeters different in height or less, or if I spy someone emerging into my rear view mirror that I didn’t expect, or if someone is hiding behind a pole and I suddenly see them in my peripheral after passing them, my immediate and inconsolable thought is that I’ve hit them. To deal with it, I’ll do a lap around that spot to make sure I didn’t hit them. That lap can result in other bumps that I then have to make sure I didn’t hit anyone during. This can repeat for a very, very long time. To deal with it, I have a front and rear dashcam that I can go review the footage after I park. Of course I haven’t hit anyone, but the fear and stress that I might have is debilitating and can be for an hour. The dashcam allows me to review footage later; or, more often, calm myself long enough to think rationally and recognize what has happened as a moment of OCD and move on.
  - Fnoord 7y ago
    This appears anxiety related, with indeed the dashcam helping to cope with this specific occurrence. I don't know which other issues you have regarding anxiety, but you might want to look into a more global solution. If its only with regards to dashcams, then (depending on your demographics) avoiding driving in Austria is likely a better solution. Full disclosure: My previous diagnosis was GAD. Now I have an autism diagnosis. I use medication to feel less agitated and nervous. These work, for me, though also force me to zoom in less. YMMV.
    - t-writescode 7y ago
      I'm diagnosed with OCD and have many of the symptoms for it. It tends to stay relatively low-grade and not life impacting, so long as I do the thing I said here. When it gets out of hand, I need to remember to follow through more with what this book told me to do: https://www.amazon.com/Brain-Lock-Twentieth-Anniversary-Obsessive-Compulsive/dp/006256143X https://www.amazon.com/Brain-Lock-Twentieth-Anniversary-Obse... That's the one my therapist had recommended. I try to avoid medication, but that's a personal preference. I do hope you the best on your journey! edit: removed a word that made my sentence mean what I didn't mean for it to mean.
      - Fnoord 7y ago
        Hey, though my comment was meant to be genuine I can, on reflection, understand that my comment got you angry. It did not occur to me that OCD could be a separate diagnosis even though I knew it is a specific ICD. Thanks for the book tip, I've added it to my list (I'm interested in related symptoms to [my] autism and some other PDs.)
kawsper 7y ago
The laws for this was recently refined in Denmark, you are allowed to run a buffer (so that you can record x minutes up to an accident) but you are not allowed to save it permanently without hitting a button.
- t-writescode 7y ago
  Most dashcam I’ve seen have a running buffer of, e.g. 2 and a half hours. Would that be permitted?