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>> Everything is destroyed in some cities and they have lost everything they had Including family members. I think most of us agree that migrants traveling lon

>> Everything is destroyed in some cities and they have lost everything they had Including family members. I think most of us agree that migrants traveling long and dangerous distances to Europe don't have much to loose back home. Now the question is if their lives are not in danger anymore why should Europe host them and pay them a better life ? Is this supposed to be a solution to world's poverty? As we've seen if support is provided or better said lack of counter-measures you may experience a continuous stream of migrants(i.e millions). Even if we want, we can't welcome everybody, I fear we can't coup even with the people who really need help, let alone the economic migrants. On the other side there is also the cultural issue. Millions of people change the landscape for sure and the natives don't want to compete with migrants(why would they?). UK is leaving EU because of european "migrants" so it's not something to ignore.

stunt 7y ago
Indeed that’s really a problem and there is even more to it. But perhaps building a wall or letting them to die is not a good solution for it.
- thefounder 7y ago
  >> But perhaps building a wall or letting them to die is not a good solution for it. Well I don't think "anyone" in Europe wants to send these migrants to the bottom of the sea. A solution currently worked on is to pay other countries closer culturally, socially and even geographically (i.e Turkey) to host these people. The lack of border security gives a sense of unease especially if you expect people from a war torn country or a country where crime is high so I fully support securing the borders. However the deshumanisation of migrants and treating them as criminals (or worse) is totally wrong and has no place in a civilised country. You can have both border security and immigration. Just be honest who is allowed in and who is not, put in place agreed quotas and that's it. At least everyone knows(including the migrants) what your stance is.
  - frandroid 7y ago
    > Well I don't think "anyone" in Europe wants to send these migrants to the bottom of the sea. https://whowhatwhy.org/2018/08/14/let-them-drown-italys-trump-closes-ports-to-refugees/ https://whowhatwhy.org/2018/08/14/let-them-drown-italys-trum... https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/05/09/italian-forces-ignored-a-sinking-ship-full-of-syrian-refugees-and-let-more-than-250-drown-says-leaked-audio/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/05/09... https://inews.co.uk/culture/radio/caller-says-let-them-sink-as-answer-to-migrants-trying-to-reach-uk-leaving-labours-tom-watson-worried-for-humanity/ https://inews.co.uk/culture/radio/caller-says-let-them-sink-... https://www.commondreams.org/news/2018/11/09/evidence-shows-us-navy-ignored-sinking-ship-migrants-drowned-and-screamed-help https://www.commondreams.org/news/2018/11/09/evidence-shows-...

stunt 7y ago

Indeed that’s really a problem and there is even more to it. But perhaps building a wall or letting them to die is not a good solution for it.

thefounder 7y ago
>> But perhaps building a wall or letting them to die is not a good solution for it. Well I don't think "anyone" in Europe wants to send these migrants to the bottom of the sea. A solution currently worked on is to pay other countries closer culturally, socially and even geographically (i.e Turkey) to host these people. The lack of border security gives a sense of unease especially if you expect people from a war torn country or a country where crime is high so I fully support securing the borders. However the deshumanisation of migrants and treating them as criminals (or worse) is totally wrong and has no place in a civilised country. You can have both border security and immigration. Just be honest who is allowed in and who is not, put in place agreed quotas and that's it. At least everyone knows(including the migrants) what your stance is.
- frandroid 7y ago
  > Well I don't think "anyone" in Europe wants to send these migrants to the bottom of the sea. https://whowhatwhy.org/2018/08/14/let-them-drown-italys-trump-closes-ports-to-refugees/ https://whowhatwhy.org/2018/08/14/let-them-drown-italys-trum... https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/05/09/italian-forces-ignored-a-sinking-ship-full-of-syrian-refugees-and-let-more-than-250-drown-says-leaked-audio/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/05/09... https://inews.co.uk/culture/radio/caller-says-let-them-sink-as-answer-to-migrants-trying-to-reach-uk-leaving-labours-tom-watson-worried-for-humanity/ https://inews.co.uk/culture/radio/caller-says-let-them-sink-... https://www.commondreams.org/news/2018/11/09/evidence-shows-us-navy-ignored-sinking-ship-migrants-drowned-and-screamed-help https://www.commondreams.org/news/2018/11/09/evidence-shows-...