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> I see there's a large group of people who do not believe government can or should do this work and will work very actively to make it happen do you have any

> I see there's a large group of people who do not believe government can or should do this work and will work very actively to make it happen do you have any numbers to back that up? There's a very 'vocal' minority holding that opinion but don't assume that group is large enough to matter when it comes to voting for/against it.

smacktoward 7y ago
You can see Gallup's historical polling results on this question here: https://news.gallup.com/poll/4708/healthcare-system.aspx https://news.gallup.com/poll/4708/healthcare-system.aspx Since 2000, the percentage of respondents who have said that providing healthcare coverage "is not the responsibility of the federal government" has fluctuated from a low in 2006 of 28% to a high in 2013 of 56%. (In their most recent survey, it's 42%.)
- dboreham 7y ago
  I've always wondered why people seem to think it should be "the responsibility of your employer". As someone who didn't grow up in the US, who is now a US business owner, it seems totally insane but everyone just nods..
  - vadym909 7y ago
    This is the crux of the problem. Sometime ago- the wise people in power decided to push the responsibility of medical coverage onto employers. Funny they chose that instead of housing or food- but thats what it is. Now everyone has to find a job that has health benefits- but employers are finding ways around it
    - didgeoridoo 7y ago
      That’s not what happened. The federal government capped wages during WWII, and in response the unions threatened to strike, which would have shut down the war effort. To mollify them, the health insurance that unions had negotiated as a fringe benefit from their employers was temporarily made tax-free (normally you pay taxes on the cash value of fringe benefits). After the war, it was supposed to go back to normal — but people had gotten used to not paying taxes for their insurance benefits, and it became politically impossible to go back to the way things were pre-war.
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pushpoll 7y ago
Not only that, but there's also the problem of how you ask people the questions. When you ask, "Do you think we should have socialized medicine" a large percentage will freak out and say "NO! We don't want socialism here!" But if you ask them, "Should we defund Medicare?" they'll also loudly scream "NO! We need our Medicare to stay alive!"

smacktoward 7y ago

You can see Gallup's historical polling results on this question here: https://news.gallup.com/poll/4708/healthcare-system.aspx https://news.gallup.com/poll/4708/healthcare-system.aspx Since 2000, the percentage of respondents who have said that providing healthcare coverage "is not the responsibility of the federal government" has fluctuated from a low in 2006 of 28% to a high in 2013 of 56%. (In their most recent survey, it's 42%.)

dboreham 7y ago
I've always wondered why people seem to think it should be "the responsibility of your employer". As someone who didn't grow up in the US, who is now a US business owner, it seems totally insane but everyone just nods..
- vadym909 7y ago
  This is the crux of the problem. Sometime ago- the wise people in power decided to push the responsibility of medical coverage onto employers. Funny they chose that instead of housing or food- but thats what it is. Now everyone has to find a job that has health benefits- but employers are finding ways around it
  - didgeoridoo 7y ago
    That’s not what happened. The federal government capped wages during WWII, and in response the unions threatened to strike, which would have shut down the war effort. To mollify them, the health insurance that unions had negotiated as a fringe benefit from their employers was temporarily made tax-free (normally you pay taxes on the cash value of fringe benefits). After the war, it was supposed to go back to normal — but people had gotten used to not paying taxes for their insurance benefits, and it became politically impossible to go back to the way things were pre-war.
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pushpoll 7y ago

Not only that, but there's also the problem of how you ask people the questions. When you ask, "Do you think we should have socialized medicine" a large percentage will freak out and say "NO! We don't want socialism here!" But if you ask them, "Should we defund Medicare?" they'll also loudly scream "NO! We need our Medicare to stay alive!"