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Hahahahahaha. Openreach is utter shit outside of very very lucky areas. I live in London (zone 6) and we get 30/8 (after fighting with BT support for two month

by qwsxyh 7y ago

Hahahahahaha. Openreach is utter shit outside of very very lucky areas. I live in London (zone 6) and we get 30/8 (after fighting with BT support for two months to fix it from 22/1). If you're not covered by VM and win the postcode lottery as to not have it drop constantly, you're lucky to get "tolerable" speeds.

njs12345 7y ago
Just count yourself lucky that you don't have an Exchange Only (EO) line, that doesn't have a cabinet and runs directly to the exchange.. I'm in Whitechapel (Zone 1) and get 8/1
- ollie87 7y ago
  I have a friend who lives in a small market town in the North on an exchange only line, he gets 2/0.5. Most of his neighbours can get vDSL too, poor bastard. He uses a 4G router with a Three unlimited SIM. He has both connected because we do a lot of FPS PC gaming and the latency on 4G is too poor to game so he switches to his ADSL connection to play games and then uses 4G to download/stream.
- tialaramex 7y ago
  There is an ongoing programme to upgrade EO lines to have their mini-cabinet so they can get vDSL. You are an inadvertent casualty of "unbundling". To promote competition the Exchange is allowed to have equipment from other providers in it (most exchanges have only one or two other FTTC providers, many have none) and that _could_ be ADSL and so the interference from VDSL _could_ break that, violating the unbundling rules, so, they just don't offer VDSL. It would be technically easy to give you VDSL, it would just break a rule that was put in place to ensure competition for ADSL service, which you now don't care about because even that close to the Exchange it's only giving you 8/1
cm2187 7y ago
And even those lucky area are capped at 50mbit upload, which is better than nothing but that's not what I call a "gigabit" speed, and still make having all your data in the cloud a distant future.
philjohn 7y ago
Sounds like a pretty local issue, and while it's true that there are spots like that (Mudchute in the Docklands is also awful) a lot of the areas with FTTC are pretty stable ... just look at TBB broadband stats for real speed tests. Anecdotal ... I've lived in two completely separate areas of the UK and been connected to 3 different FTTC cabs ... none of them were problematic.

by qwsxyh 7y ago

njs12345 7y ago

Just count yourself lucky that you don't have an Exchange Only (EO) line, that doesn't have a cabinet and runs directly to the exchange.. I'm in Whitechapel (Zone 1) and get 8/1

ollie87 7y ago
I have a friend who lives in a small market town in the North on an exchange only line, he gets 2/0.5. Most of his neighbours can get vDSL too, poor bastard. He uses a 4G router with a Three unlimited SIM. He has both connected because we do a lot of FPS PC gaming and the latency on 4G is too poor to game so he switches to his ADSL connection to play games and then uses 4G to download/stream.
tialaramex 7y ago
There is an ongoing programme to upgrade EO lines to have their mini-cabinet so they can get vDSL. You are an inadvertent casualty of "unbundling". To promote competition the Exchange is allowed to have equipment from other providers in it (most exchanges have only one or two other FTTC providers, many have none) and that _could_ be ADSL and so the interference from VDSL _could_ break that, violating the unbundling rules, so, they just don't offer VDSL. It would be technically easy to give you VDSL, it would just break a rule that was put in place to ensure competition for ADSL service, which you now don't care about because even that close to the Exchange it's only giving you 8/1

cm2187 7y ago

And even those lucky area are capped at 50mbit upload, which is better than nothing but that's not what I call a "gigabit" speed, and still make having all your data in the cloud a distant future.

philjohn 7y ago

Sounds like a pretty local issue, and while it's true that there are spots like that (Mudchute in the Docklands is also awful) a lot of the areas with FTTC are pretty stable ... just look at TBB broadband stats for real speed tests. Anecdotal ... I've lived in two completely separate areas of the UK and been connected to 3 different FTTC cabs ... none of them were problematic.