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We are afraid that our effort on bamboolib will be wasted if there is no real interest in bamboolib, which is why we set ourselves the ambitious goal of 10k sub

We are afraid that our effort on bamboolib will be wasted if there is no real interest in bamboolib, which is why we set ourselves the ambitious goal of 10k subscribers. We only want to build software that people REALLY want. Also, we developed edaviz.com and thus have opportunity costs. The 10k subscribers is a soft goal, so we may still develop bamboolib if we are somewhat close to it, but the 10k give us a clear threshold. Also, if we decide not to do it, we will delete all mails. So you don't need to be afraid that your mail gets abused. Also please note that our landing page is just online for a couple of hours and we have already hundreds of signups, so in my estimation, getting at least close to 10k is very feasible. This depends of course on whether people who really need bamboolib share it with others who also really need it. And we are glad that we already found some people who would save between 20-40h per month. However, the big question is: are we able to find more people like those and are they able to find us. So, this is the challenge :) However, the challenge is big and therefore, we need support from others who are willing to share bamboolib if they really need it

sjcoles 7y ago
> We are afraid that our effort on bamboolib will be wasted if there is no real interest in bamboolib, which is why we set ourselves the ambitious goal of 10k subscribers. We only want to build software that people REALLY want. How do you know if they really want it if all you have to show are mock ups and no real functionality. Or even worse, using videos of OTHER SOFTWARE without mentioning that it's lifted from that and not from a WIP or anything like that. This pisses me off way more than it should. The onus is ON YOU to do market research, not for the market to do research for you. You should know if this is in demand already or not. What's the point besides mining e-mail addresses?
- kite_and_code 7y ago
  I want to assure you that we did not do this to mine email addresses and I am sad to hear that you seem to have had negative experiences with this in the past. Also, to many people it has been very clear that this is just a product vision when they watched the video because I mention this multiple times in the video. I can understand that you would prefer the "hacker way" of first coding something before talking about it at all. Actually, this is what we did with edaviz.com During that work we came to the hypothesis that bamboolib might be even more interesting to many Python Data Scientists. However, we wanted to save our coding time because we might be slower than you. And thus, we decided for creating the vision video first. The landing page and the email addresses helped us to get in contact with users who are really passionate about the project and want to see it happen. However, the features within Jupyter are to some extent different than the features within Trifacta Wrangler which operates in the cloud. Also, the users of Trifacta Wrangler don't have the option to fall back to real code when they might want to.

sjcoles 7y ago

> We are afraid that our effort on bamboolib will be wasted if there is no real interest in bamboolib, which is why we set ourselves the ambitious goal of 10k subscribers. We only want to build software that people REALLY want. How do you know if they really want it if all you have to show are mock ups and no real functionality. Or even worse, using videos of OTHER SOFTWARE without mentioning that it's lifted from that and not from a WIP or anything like that. This pisses me off way more than it should. The onus is ON YOU to do market research, not for the market to do research for you. You should know if this is in demand already or not. What's the point besides mining e-mail addresses?

kite_and_code 7y ago
I want to assure you that we did not do this to mine email addresses and I am sad to hear that you seem to have had negative experiences with this in the past. Also, to many people it has been very clear that this is just a product vision when they watched the video because I mention this multiple times in the video. I can understand that you would prefer the "hacker way" of first coding something before talking about it at all. Actually, this is what we did with edaviz.com During that work we came to the hypothesis that bamboolib might be even more interesting to many Python Data Scientists. However, we wanted to save our coding time because we might be slower than you. And thus, we decided for creating the vision video first. The landing page and the email addresses helped us to get in contact with users who are really passionate about the project and want to see it happen. However, the features within Jupyter are to some extent different than the features within Trifacta Wrangler which operates in the cloud. Also, the users of Trifacta Wrangler don't have the option to fall back to real code when they might want to.