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>We already have a warrant system in place that is more than adequate for protecting privacy and excessive dragnet fishing expeditions. Do you have a citation
by clubm8 7y ago
>We already have a warrant system in place that is more than adequate for protecting privacy and excessive dragnet fishing expeditions.
Do you have a citation for that claim?
There are vast[1] systems in place that violate laws and norms, so much so the IETF has labeled pervasive monitoring as an "attack"[2]
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_surveillance_disclosures_(2013%E2%80%93present)#Global_surveillance https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_surveillance_disclosure...
[2] https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7258 https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7258
- dmix 7y agoNone of the things you linked to use the traditional warrant system. Particularly the whole FISA system and our terrorist laws here in Canada which sidestepped criminal courts entirely.
- clubm8 7y agonot really sure what your point is so maybe you can clarify: are you saying it's ok to have a separate type of warrant for terrorists? "traditional warrant system" is not a legal term. FISA warrants are warrants. Highly problematic, but warrants. You may be interested in reading about how even FISA felt the NSA overstepped: https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/d7axey/this-is-the-secret-court-order-that-forced-the-nsa-to-delete-the-data-it-collected-about-you https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/d7axey/this-is-the-secret...