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Unfortunately neither Minecraft: Bedrock Edition or Roblox really works in Linux.

by techntoke 7y ago

t0astbread 7y ago
I don't know how it compares but Minetest is always a thing
- mastazi 7y ago
  Thank you for mentioning Minetest, I didn't know it existed!
  - techntoke 7y ago
    I tried it, but unfortunately it is no where close to Minecraft. Crafting items is a pain from what I can tell, unless I'm just not recognizing some shortcuts.
    - em-bee 7y ago
      i only play minetest so i can't compare. for complex items you have to craft the ingredients first, so it can end up in a chain from raw materials until you got your actual item done. it can be a bit tedious, but on the other hand if you need an item many times, bulk crafting works well, it is just as easy to create a single item as it is to create hundreds of them.
mastazi 7y ago
Correct, however the original Minecraft (Java edition) does... What Bedrock features do you miss that aren't there in Java edition?
- techntoke 7y ago
  Mostly performance
  - mastazi 7y ago
    That's a very good point indeed. Java edition is not easy on hardware.
  - earenndil 7y ago
    Look at optifine https://optifine.net/home https://optifine.net/home
    - zfgnu 7y ago
      What's stopping the developers of Minecraft from just implementing what OptiFine does? I mean, if the FPS boosts are real...
      - SquareWheel 7y ago
        The performance improvements are real, for some people. Yet Optifine causes issues for others. It also requires a fair bit of configuration to get optimal. Mojang needs to keep things simple, functional and consistent for the vast majority of their players. They choose the best defaults that work for the most number of people. Also, modded players will let you know just how badly Optifine breaks rendering calls. The first step of any troubleshooting is checking if Optifine is installed.
gameswithgo 7y ago
it is a tautology that minecraft for windows doesnt work in linux. actual minecraft had always worked in linux.
- jyxent 7y ago
  Bedrock linux is hardly just Minecraft for Windows. It is Minecraft for Android, iOS, Xbox One, and Nintendo Switch. It looks like it will be coming to the Playstation 4 soon too. I use MCPELauncher to run the Android version under Linux, which lets me play with my son on his Switch.
jdnenej 7y ago
Isn't bedrock version just the one with no mods and in app purchases?
- tialaramex 7y ago
  Microsoft would very much like Bedrock to "be" Minecraft. As you've observed it's revenue-generating in a way the Java Minecraft is not, and it provides a controlled experience. Microsoft has been talking to influential people about how to land some sort of modding-lite to Bedrock. I suspect that won't go well, but in principle it could work. They've been showing where they're going to people like Direwolf20 (popular Youtuber and small modder) Actual (Java) Minecraft modding involves two layers of effort. Firstly, since Minecraft is Java, a layer is using Java's own introspection to reach inside Minecraft's core systems and genericise them. For example Minecraft doesn't really grasp "fluids" as a general group, it has a bunch of special cases for water, lava... but a mod might want to add others (Molten steel, Goat milk, Diesel, Tritium... all real examples of fluids in common mods) and then the second layer needs to add generic capabilities - if all you really have is lava and water but with different textures that's lame, but if new fluids have density and temperature and so on they can interact even without custom code for specific behaviour. Knowing Goat's milk is the same temperature as water my Seebeck Effect generator won't work if you put goat's milk on one side and water on the other. "Liquid Helium" however at 3K rather than 300K would work well, and "Molten steel" at 1800K would help on the other side, even without my Seebeck Effect Generator mod knowing what these liquids actually "are" in any sense. I do not see an appetite at Microsoft for this level of detail in Bedrock Mods. I'm expecting some basic customisability, but nothing comparable to, say, AE2 or Thaumcraft (sprawling mods that touch every part of Minecraft).

Unfortunately neither Minecraft: Bedrock Edition or Roblox really works in Linux.

t0astbread 7y ago

I don't know how it compares but Minetest is always a thing

mastazi 7y ago
Thank you for mentioning Minetest, I didn't know it existed!
- techntoke 7y ago
  I tried it, but unfortunately it is no where close to Minecraft. Crafting items is a pain from what I can tell, unless I'm just not recognizing some shortcuts.
  - em-bee 7y ago
    i only play minetest so i can't compare. for complex items you have to craft the ingredients first, so it can end up in a chain from raw materials until you got your actual item done. it can be a bit tedious, but on the other hand if you need an item many times, bulk crafting works well, it is just as easy to create a single item as it is to create hundreds of them.

mastazi 7y ago

Correct, however the original Minecraft (Java edition) does... What Bedrock features do you miss that aren't there in Java edition?

techntoke 7y ago
Mostly performance
- mastazi 7y ago
  That's a very good point indeed. Java edition is not easy on hardware.
- earenndil 7y ago
  Look at optifine https://optifine.net/home https://optifine.net/home
  - zfgnu 7y ago
    What's stopping the developers of Minecraft from just implementing what OptiFine does? I mean, if the FPS boosts are real...
    - SquareWheel 7y ago
      The performance improvements are real, for some people. Yet Optifine causes issues for others. It also requires a fair bit of configuration to get optimal. Mojang needs to keep things simple, functional and consistent for the vast majority of their players. They choose the best defaults that work for the most number of people. Also, modded players will let you know just how badly Optifine breaks rendering calls. The first step of any troubleshooting is checking if Optifine is installed.

gameswithgo 7y ago

it is a tautology that minecraft for windows doesnt work in linux. actual minecraft had always worked in linux.

jyxent 7y ago
Bedrock linux is hardly just Minecraft for Windows. It is Minecraft for Android, iOS, Xbox One, and Nintendo Switch. It looks like it will be coming to the Playstation 4 soon too. I use MCPELauncher to run the Android version under Linux, which lets me play with my son on his Switch.

jdnenej 7y ago

Isn't bedrock version just the one with no mods and in app purchases?

tialaramex 7y ago
Microsoft would very much like Bedrock to "be" Minecraft. As you've observed it's revenue-generating in a way the Java Minecraft is not, and it provides a controlled experience. Microsoft has been talking to influential people about how to land some sort of modding-lite to Bedrock. I suspect that won't go well, but in principle it could work. They've been showing where they're going to people like Direwolf20 (popular Youtuber and small modder) Actual (Java) Minecraft modding involves two layers of effort. Firstly, since Minecraft is Java, a layer is using Java's own introspection to reach inside Minecraft's core systems and genericise them. For example Minecraft doesn't really grasp "fluids" as a general group, it has a bunch of special cases for water, lava... but a mod might want to add others (Molten steel, Goat milk, Diesel, Tritium... all real examples of fluids in common mods) and then the second layer needs to add generic capabilities - if all you really have is lava and water but with different textures that's lame, but if new fluids have density and temperature and so on they can interact even without custom code for specific behaviour. Knowing Goat's milk is the same temperature as water my Seebeck Effect generator won't work if you put goat's milk on one side and water on the other. "Liquid Helium" however at 3K rather than 300K would work well, and "Molten steel" at 1800K would help on the other side, even without my Seebeck Effect Generator mod knowing what these liquids actually "are" in any sense. I do not see an appetite at Microsoft for this level of detail in Bedrock Mods. I'm expecting some basic customisability, but nothing comparable to, say, AE2 or Thaumcraft (sprawling mods that touch every part of Minecraft).