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Ok so dominating the market is an important factor for anti-trust litigation. Google is dominating the search market and used this to push Chrome (searching fro
by theturtletalks 7y ago
Ok so dominating the market is an important factor for anti-trust litigation. Google is dominating the search market and used this to push Chrome (searching from the url address bar was one of the main reasons people switched). Is that not the same as what Microsoft did? Now they dominate both markets and leveraged both to grow the other.
- toasterlovin 7y agoC'mon. Microsoft controlled Windows, an operating system. A browser is a thing that can be included in an operating system. Google controls google.com, a website. A browser is not something that can be included in a website.
- theturtletalks 7y agoYes but is Google search not the default search engine for Chrome? Just like IE was the default search browser for Windows.
- toasterlovin 7y agoThey are not using their browser monopoly (which doesn't exist) to force people to use their search product. That would be the corollary to the Windows -> Internet Explorer case.
- theturtletalks 7y agoHow about using Android dominance to push their search or other services? They were forced to unbundle in the EU but no action from the US. If they were held to the same anti trust standard Microsoft faced, they would’ve had anti trust cases against them already.
- toasterlovin 7y agoThey're nowhere near a monopoly in the U.S. (and, I would imagine, Western Europe) and Google doesn't even work in China. I'm just not seeing it.
- stcredzero 7y agoThey are arguably using their browser dominance to prop up their search engine dominance.
- jdietrich 7y agoGoogle were sanctioned in 2017 for exploiting their dominance in the search market to promote their other services. https://www.theverge.com/2017/6/27/15872354/google-eu-fine-antitrust-shopping https://www.theverge.com/2017/6/27/15872354/google-eu-fine-a...
- theturtletalks 7y agoThis is the EU. What has the US done to limit or sanction Google? Why was Microsoft pursued and Google not? Both were using one market dominance to push another.
- tracker1 7y agoIIRC, the US hasn't done much at all, until pretty recently. I think recent actions of Google/YouTube, Twitter and Facebook are catching a lot of regulatory attention at this point.
- sjy 7y agoGoogle wasn't a dominant search engine at the time of the Microsoft litigation, and different people were in charge of the Justice Department by the time that it became one. Not every potential crime is or can be prosecuted – especially when there is a lot of room for legal debate as to whether the conduct was criminal, and the defendant is well-resourced.
- bduerst 7y agoThis is the EU, and a failure of technically understanding how internet search works. The google shopping carousel is basically search ads with pictures. Every listing is paid to be there, and is even set up in the same place that you set up Google search ads.