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Allowing people to murder human beings is intolerant. Isn't this what this thread is all about?

by psbmt 7y ago

FussyZeus 7y ago
Fetuses are not human beings by any scientific definition. Even without being aborted, a fetus is far from guaranteed to be born. A lot can happen in 9 months. If the mother has a miscarriage, is she now a murderer? If she's in a car accident and loses the baby, is the other person involved in the crash a murderer? Does it depend on who was at fault in the accident? If a doctor fails to see a birth defect in time, are they now charged with manslaughter? Does a mother collect child support from a father at time of conception? Do they collect state benefits from the beginning of their pregnancy? This thing conservatives want to do of making fetuses people is a bottomless pit of regulatory gotchas. It's ridiculous.
pritambaral 7y ago
> Allowing people to murder human beings is intolerant. You see, this kind of behaviour is why I feel this discussion is not between two honest parties under good faith. Your rhetoric here and above (about religion of anti-abortionists being encroached upon by abortionists) give me the impression you are being unfair and disingenuous. If this is true, there is simply no way to discourse. But I could be grossly wrong, and under that faith I will try to point out how you assuming that everyone automatically shares your views is wrong: Take three people: 1. A Muslim who claims that all consumption of porcine meat is bad; 2. A Hindu who claims that all consumption of bovine meat from a female is bad; and 3. A Christian who claims that all consumption of shellfish is bad. If these people tried to prevent everyone (including you), no matter their religion or beliefs, from consumption of all these three kinds of substances; they'd be imposing their own views and assumptions on everyone else (including you), and thus be intolerant of everyone else's (including yours) views.

Allowing people to murder human beings is intolerant. Isn't this what this thread is all about?

by psbmt 7y ago

Allowing people to murder human beings is intolerant. Isn't this what this thread is all about?

Fetuses are not human beings by any scientific definition. Even without being aborted, a fetus is far from guaranteed to be born. A lot can happen in 9 months. If the mother has a miscarriage, is she now a murderer? If she's in a car accident and loses the baby, is the other person involved in the crash a murderer? Does it depend on who was at fault in the accident? If a doctor fails to see a birth defect in time, are they now charged with manslaughter? Does a mother collect child support from a father at time of conception? Do they collect state benefits from the beginning of their pregnancy? This thing conservatives want to do of making fetuses people is a bottomless pit of regulatory gotchas. It's ridiculous.

pritambaral 7y ago

> Allowing people to murder human beings is intolerant. You see, this kind of behaviour is why I feel this discussion is not between two honest parties under good faith. Your rhetoric here and above (about religion of anti-abortionists being encroached upon by abortionists) give me the impression you are being unfair and disingenuous. If this is true, there is simply no way to discourse. But I could be grossly wrong, and under that faith I will try to point out how you assuming that everyone automatically shares your views is wrong: Take three people: 1. A Muslim who claims that all consumption of porcine meat is bad; 2. A Hindu who claims that all consumption of bovine meat from a female is bad; and 3. A Christian who claims that all consumption of shellfish is bad. If these people tried to prevent everyone (including you), no matter their religion or beliefs, from consumption of all these three kinds of substances; they'd be imposing their own views and assumptions on everyone else (including you), and thus be intolerant of everyone else's (including yours) views.