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I'll get hate for this, but whenever things like cell service are suddenly shared with millions of people more, the connectivity is stressed out. Companies like

I'll get hate for this, but whenever things like cell service are suddenly shared with millions of people more, the connectivity is stressed out. Companies like AT&T spend at least 1.5 years from the planning of a tower to it's completion, so reliable growth models are required. Sudden population influxes produce problems.

NewsAware 7y ago
Are you talking about refugees??
- indalo 7y ago
  I think that is what just happened...
- not_a_cop75 7y ago
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  - pmjordan 7y ago
    Perhaps you'd like to explain how people driving through the country, or anyone else in fact, drives down ADSL speeds to single-digit or low tens of Mbit/s. Or indeed how population fluctuations of about 1-2% might cause cellular networks to develop dark patches or to regress from LTE to 3G or EDGE.
    - not_a_cop75 7y ago
      What if suddenly you have 30 times the number of people at every single internet cafe? Also people with less housing availability use their phones more on average not less, because making ideal housing arrangements on a daily to subdaily basis takes time. Willing to be wrong here but last time I looked, DSL was also driven by an oversubscription sales model, meaning they oversell the product and then try to keep ahead of the curve. Perhaps you've never been homeless so you don't realize these things.
      - zAy0LfpBZLC8mAC 7y ago
        Just a suggestion: Do some actual math. It's really not that difficult to not look like a racist asshole if you bother to actually calculate the size of whatever effect you are hypothesizing exists to check whether it could possibly actually be a thing, as opposed to your prejudice leading you to nonsense conclusions.
magic_beans 7y ago
What on Earth are you talking about?
ceejayoz 7y ago
You're trying to cram a square peg into a round hole here. Germany's growth rate in 2018 was 0.3%. The birth rate was 9.5/k versus a death rate of 11.3/k as of 2017, and the fertility rate been below replacement rate since the 1970s.
- not_a_cop75 7y ago
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  - ceejayoz 7y ago
    > It looks like Germany's population grew by over 20 million just recently. Uh, that'll be the fall of the Soviet Union adding ~16M East Germans. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_reunification https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_reunification > Some countries don't even have a census every year You don't need a census to get a population count. Governments definitely keep records of births/deaths, as well as immigration. Your own link provides population numbers for every year from 1900 through 2018. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Germany#Statistics_since_1900 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Germany#Statis... > Facts are so unpopular. Indeed. German population in 1998: 82,024,000. German population in 2018: 83,000,000.
    - not_a_cop75 7y ago
      So you mean to tell me there was an immigration crisis in Germany with only 500 thousand people? Germany must be the most backwards nation in the world, if this is true. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2018/07/03/what-you-need-to-know-about-germanys-immigration-crisis/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2018/07/03... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_migrant_crisis#/media/File:Map_of_the_European_Migrant_Crisis_2015.png https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_migrant_crisis#/media... Especially when you tell me they are a strong nation of 80M people. They can't even tolerate a measly <1% immigration before hateful bigots begin to protest. You've really shed a light to me on how extremely bigoted Europe really is! I don't think I'll ever visit that awful place for the rest of my life. Let alone buy things! We shouldn't buy a single thing from Europe ever again! Thank you, good sir! What other nations are this bigoted besides these awful nations? I've heard that many nations in the middle east don't accept refugees at all. Is this true? And what about all of Asia?? There really is so much hate in all the world.
rconti 7y ago
By what measure is Germany's growth in population large? I get that 1 year is too short. Give us an example where it looks like it's growing fast. We'll wait.

NewsAware 7y ago

Are you talking about refugees??

indalo 7y ago
I think that is what just happened...
not_a_cop75 7y ago
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- pmjordan 7y ago
  Perhaps you'd like to explain how people driving through the country, or anyone else in fact, drives down ADSL speeds to single-digit or low tens of Mbit/s. Or indeed how population fluctuations of about 1-2% might cause cellular networks to develop dark patches or to regress from LTE to 3G or EDGE.
  - not_a_cop75 7y ago
    What if suddenly you have 30 times the number of people at every single internet cafe? Also people with less housing availability use their phones more on average not less, because making ideal housing arrangements on a daily to subdaily basis takes time. Willing to be wrong here but last time I looked, DSL was also driven by an oversubscription sales model, meaning they oversell the product and then try to keep ahead of the curve. Perhaps you've never been homeless so you don't realize these things.
    - zAy0LfpBZLC8mAC 7y ago
      Just a suggestion: Do some actual math. It's really not that difficult to not look like a racist asshole if you bother to actually calculate the size of whatever effect you are hypothesizing exists to check whether it could possibly actually be a thing, as opposed to your prejudice leading you to nonsense conclusions.

magic_beans 7y ago

What on Earth are you talking about?

ceejayoz 7y ago

You're trying to cram a square peg into a round hole here. Germany's growth rate in 2018 was 0.3%. The birth rate was 9.5/k versus a death rate of 11.3/k as of 2017, and the fertility rate been below replacement rate since the 1970s.

not_a_cop75 7y ago
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- ceejayoz 7y ago
  > It looks like Germany's population grew by over 20 million just recently. Uh, that'll be the fall of the Soviet Union adding ~16M East Germans. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_reunification https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_reunification > Some countries don't even have a census every year You don't need a census to get a population count. Governments definitely keep records of births/deaths, as well as immigration. Your own link provides population numbers for every year from 1900 through 2018. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Germany#Statistics_since_1900 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Germany#Statis... > Facts are so unpopular. Indeed. German population in 1998: 82,024,000. German population in 2018: 83,000,000.
  - not_a_cop75 7y ago
    So you mean to tell me there was an immigration crisis in Germany with only 500 thousand people? Germany must be the most backwards nation in the world, if this is true. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2018/07/03/what-you-need-to-know-about-germanys-immigration-crisis/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2018/07/03... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_migrant_crisis#/media/File:Map_of_the_European_Migrant_Crisis_2015.png https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_migrant_crisis#/media... Especially when you tell me they are a strong nation of 80M people. They can't even tolerate a measly <1% immigration before hateful bigots begin to protest. You've really shed a light to me on how extremely bigoted Europe really is! I don't think I'll ever visit that awful place for the rest of my life. Let alone buy things! We shouldn't buy a single thing from Europe ever again! Thank you, good sir! What other nations are this bigoted besides these awful nations? I've heard that many nations in the middle east don't accept refugees at all. Is this true? And what about all of Asia?? There really is so much hate in all the world.

rconti 7y ago

By what measure is Germany's growth in population large? I get that 1 year is too short. Give us an example where it looks like it's growing fast. We'll wait.