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Inciting violence is not legal though. It’s reasonable to cut support to players that relentlessly fail to comply with the rules. The platforms are not turnin
by hrktb 7y ago
Inciting violence is not legal though.
It’s reasonable to cut support to players that relentlessly fail to comply with the rules.
The platforms are not turning against them, they are constantly abusing the ToS of these platforms
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Now some people disagree with the ToS in the first place, but it’s another discussion to be done at another plane. There has always been a filtering of what goes to a super wide audience, movies airing on public broadcast have always been filtered, the same logic applies to platforms as wide as reddit.
- adnzzzzZ 7y ago8chan took the shooter's manifesto down way faster than it took Facebook to take down the Christchurch shooter's streams. You're mistaken if you think that 8chan "relentlessly fails to comply with the rules", anyone paying attention knows that they're very responsive. This is nothing more than a witchhunt because people want the site to go away.
- afiori 7y agoFacebook and others focus an inane amount of energy in keeping up a "healthy place" facade. Even if 8chan was super meticulous on the rules I doubt it could pull off the same feat without comparable effort.
- hrktb 7y agoI get your point, but I think responsiveness is just an aspect of the issue. For 8chan and for any other platform. For instance if you were harrassed on twitter, twitter being blazingly fast at taking down tweets you report wouldn’t help you much, you’d still have to report every single tweet of users harrassing you. Even if 8chan takes down every violence threat, if it still propagated enough to be worth it for the poster, 8chan’s modus operandi has very little impact on the situation. I am not saying it’s easy, just that they clearly haven’t found a good solution.
- Ajedi32 7y agoIf what 8Chan was doing was not legal, then perhaps they should have been shut down through an actual legal process, not an arbitrary decision by a cloud infrastructure provider.
- themagician 7y agoCan you imagine if, every time you wanted to drop a client you had to sue them and go to court to show why you didn't want to work with them?
- Ajedi32 7y agoDepending on what the contract says, you're may indeed be free to drop clients for any reason. Don't try to defend your decision by claiming they did something illegal though unless you're willing to go to court to prove it.
- themagician 7y agoYou are "free" to drop a client for any reason, regardless of what the contract says. You may, however, be liable. Contract law (torts) is different from criminal law. No one goes to prison for for dropping a client, regardless of what a contract says. Cloudflare just decided to drop 8chan as a client. That's it. That's all that happened. 8chan can sue in civil court if they feel a contract was breached or they suffered damages. No one did anything illegal. No claim that anything illegal was done need be made. That's not how this works. That's not how any of this works.