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How are these sites spaming PageRank ? I understand that it's fairly easy to create sites with dynamically generated content for common search words but how ar

by tgflynn 16y ago

How are these sites spaming PageRank ? I understand that it's fairly easy to create sites with dynamically generated content for common search words but how are they getting enough incoming links to rank highly on Google's search pages ?

shadowpwner 16y ago
Link farms, comment spamming, etc.
cagenut 16y ago
Actually the trick isn't going for common search words, its going for specific long-tail search phrases. "How do I make tacos with ground beef" instead of "tacos beef howto". Currently google will rank a near-exact long-phrase-string match above a less exact more bunch-of-keywords one with more inbound links. Tech people, sysadmins in particular, have been living with this in the form of Experts Exchange for a long time. However since they're usually the second or third link among a pile of mailinglists and forums you just learned to skip them. The popular fad in "Q&A" sites (stackoverflow, answers.com, yahoo answers, quora) exists specifically to exploit this revenue/traffic opportunity. But thats for tech stuff/people. When it comes to general consumer searches the real 800lbs gorilla is Demand Media. If you want to really wrap your brain around how silly this has gotten, read this: http://www.wired.com/magazine/2009/10/ff_demandmedia/ http://www.wired.com/magazine/2009/10/ff_demandmedia/ In a way this is all backhandedly from the success of google. We all got so used to it being so good at finding what we wanted, we learned to just "talk" to it, but writing into the search box pretty much exactly what we'd say out loud.
- tgflynn 16y ago
  I'm not quite seeing how that's causing the problems that people are complaining about. If I was looking for dishwasher reviews I would just type "dishwasher reviews" and you'd think that legitimate review sites would have those keywords as well as lots of incoming links. So they should beat out dynamically generated sites.
  - jshen 16y ago
    There are a lot of ways for SEOs to get links. The simplest is to buy them.
yeahsure 16y ago
It's not that hard, actually. You even have tools like SEnuke or Xrumer to automate the process. Get a few backlinks from .edu, .gov domains and then post some spammy articles/comments all over and you're good to go. If you are going after a competitive keyword, then you can setup linkfarms using Wordpress.com, Blogspot and a lot of free blog hosting services. Again, this can be automated or outsourced for pennies.

by tgflynn 16y ago

shadowpwner 16y ago

Link farms, comment spamming, etc.

cagenut 16y ago

Actually the trick isn't going for common search words, its going for specific long-tail search phrases. "How do I make tacos with ground beef" instead of "tacos beef howto". Currently google will rank a near-exact long-phrase-string match above a less exact more bunch-of-keywords one with more inbound links. Tech people, sysadmins in particular, have been living with this in the form of Experts Exchange for a long time. However since they're usually the second or third link among a pile of mailinglists and forums you just learned to skip them. The popular fad in "Q&A" sites (stackoverflow, answers.com, yahoo answers, quora) exists specifically to exploit this revenue/traffic opportunity. But thats for tech stuff/people. When it comes to general consumer searches the real 800lbs gorilla is Demand Media. If you want to really wrap your brain around how silly this has gotten, read this: http://www.wired.com/magazine/2009/10/ff_demandmedia/ http://www.wired.com/magazine/2009/10/ff_demandmedia/ In a way this is all backhandedly from the success of google. We all got so used to it being so good at finding what we wanted, we learned to just "talk" to it, but writing into the search box pretty much exactly what we'd say out loud.

tgflynn 16y ago
I'm not quite seeing how that's causing the problems that people are complaining about. If I was looking for dishwasher reviews I would just type "dishwasher reviews" and you'd think that legitimate review sites would have those keywords as well as lots of incoming links. So they should beat out dynamically generated sites.
- jshen 16y ago
  There are a lot of ways for SEOs to get links. The simplest is to buy them.

yeahsure 16y ago

It's not that hard, actually. You even have tools like SEnuke or Xrumer to automate the process. Get a few backlinks from .edu, .gov domains and then post some spammy articles/comments all over and you're good to go. If you are going after a competitive keyword, then you can setup linkfarms using Wordpress.com, Blogspot and a lot of free blog hosting services. Again, this can be automated or outsourced for pennies.