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meanwhile, to us canadians, it's painfully obvious that the problem isn't websites, but guns. curbing free speech is not going to solve this problem for you.

Theodores 7y ago
It is always something else. If it wasn't 8chan it would be 4chan. If it wasn't 4chan it would be video games. If it wasn't video games it would be video nasties. If it wasn't video nasties it would be drugs. Anything except the guns. Interesting how the U.S. President can say how he wants the perpetrators executed. There is a whole culture of killing just south of that border of yours.
g00s3_caLL_x2 7y ago
https://dailycaller.com/2015/10/12/remember-the-2007-harvard-study-showing-more-guns-led-to-less-crime/ https://dailycaller.com/2015/10/12/remember-the-2007-harvard... It's interesting that the link that was @ Harvard with a pdf of the results (that Harvard published...) is now a broken link. Here is a working copy: https://www.garymauser.net/pdf/KatesMauserHJPP.pdf https://www.garymauser.net/pdf/KatesMauserHJPP.pdf Gary Mauser who is also a Candadian criminologist. Interesting indeed. https://www.sfu.ca/~mauser/ https://www.sfu.ca/~mauser/
- anewguy9000 7y ago
  That link should be flagged. "This would explain why shootings occur in “gun free zone” schools and movie theaters rather than in police stations or gun clubs." Seriously HN?
  - deleted 7y ago
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  - g00s3_caLL_x2 7y ago
    "That's like...your opinion..man" - The Dude.
- alanr 7y ago
  https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/harvard-flaw-review/ https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/harvard-flaw-review/
  - g00s3_caLL_x2 7y ago
    1. Snopes is a well known leftist hotbed and anything they print should be taken with a grain of salt as it's not unbiased. They are caught up in a legal dispute that is still carrying on. Linking something to them is no better than a fortune cookie. https://www.forbes.com/sites/kalevleetaru/2016/12/22/the-daily-mail-snopes-story-and-fact-checking-the-fact-checkers/#35ca7877227f https://www.forbes.com/sites/kalevleetaru/2016/12/22/the-dai...
Pigo 7y ago
That's an extremely narrow view of a nuanced issue. We have divisive cultural issues, a severe mental health problem, an opiate addiction problem, and problems with access to guns in some areas. We also have a huge country. We also have a huge country, taking away guns from people in Alaska will solve nothing. How's the knife banning in London going btw?
- rebuilder 7y ago
  Also, if I understand correctly, very uneven economic progress in different areas. Call me a reductionist, but I'm inclined to view social extremism primarily as a symptom of economic decline. When growth falters, the fires always seem to start burning.
- ssully 7y ago
  While I get your point about guns in Alaska (I am assuming you mean there aren't mass shootings happening there), I think your overall statement is misguided. Alaska has the highest suicide rate [1] and second highest murder rate per captia in the USA [2]. I didn't pull articles for this, but it's pretty widely accepted that easy access to firearms directly ties to increases in suicide and murder. [1]: http://dhss.alaska.gov/SuicidePrevention/Documents/pdfs_sspc/AKSuicideStatistics.pdf http://dhss.alaska.gov/SuicidePrevention/Documents/pdfs_sspc... [2]:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_homicide_rate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_homicid...
- messick 7y ago
  It's going great. Stabbing deaths in London in 2018 were just over 3 "El Pasos". It's less than 3X if you change the metric to "2019 mass shootings posted to 8chan ahead of time". I'm sorry that Fox News has led you so astray, but the whole "actually everyone in London gets stabbed because they don't have guns" narrative is horseshit.
  - Pigo 7y ago
    You guys should really get on top of that pointy stick situation now. Fox News???

Theodores 7y ago

It is always something else. If it wasn't 8chan it would be 4chan. If it wasn't 4chan it would be video games. If it wasn't video games it would be video nasties. If it wasn't video nasties it would be drugs. Anything except the guns. Interesting how the U.S. President can say how he wants the perpetrators executed. There is a whole culture of killing just south of that border of yours.

g00s3_caLL_x2 7y ago

https://dailycaller.com/2015/10/12/remember-the-2007-harvard-study-showing-more-guns-led-to-less-crime/ https://dailycaller.com/2015/10/12/remember-the-2007-harvard... It's interesting that the link that was @ Harvard with a pdf of the results (that Harvard published...) is now a broken link. Here is a working copy: https://www.garymauser.net/pdf/KatesMauserHJPP.pdf https://www.garymauser.net/pdf/KatesMauserHJPP.pdf Gary Mauser who is also a Candadian criminologist. Interesting indeed. https://www.sfu.ca/~mauser/ https://www.sfu.ca/~mauser/

anewguy9000 7y ago
That link should be flagged. "This would explain why shootings occur in “gun free zone” schools and movie theaters rather than in police stations or gun clubs." Seriously HN?
- deleted 7y ago
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- g00s3_caLL_x2 7y ago
  "That's like...your opinion..man" - The Dude.
alanr 7y ago
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/harvard-flaw-review/ https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/harvard-flaw-review/
- g00s3_caLL_x2 7y ago
  1. Snopes is a well known leftist hotbed and anything they print should be taken with a grain of salt as it's not unbiased. They are caught up in a legal dispute that is still carrying on. Linking something to them is no better than a fortune cookie. https://www.forbes.com/sites/kalevleetaru/2016/12/22/the-daily-mail-snopes-story-and-fact-checking-the-fact-checkers/#35ca7877227f https://www.forbes.com/sites/kalevleetaru/2016/12/22/the-dai...

Pigo 7y ago

That's an extremely narrow view of a nuanced issue. We have divisive cultural issues, a severe mental health problem, an opiate addiction problem, and problems with access to guns in some areas. We also have a huge country. We also have a huge country, taking away guns from people in Alaska will solve nothing. How's the knife banning in London going btw?

rebuilder 7y ago
Also, if I understand correctly, very uneven economic progress in different areas. Call me a reductionist, but I'm inclined to view social extremism primarily as a symptom of economic decline. When growth falters, the fires always seem to start burning.
ssully 7y ago
While I get your point about guns in Alaska (I am assuming you mean there aren't mass shootings happening there), I think your overall statement is misguided. Alaska has the highest suicide rate [1] and second highest murder rate per captia in the USA [2]. I didn't pull articles for this, but it's pretty widely accepted that easy access to firearms directly ties to increases in suicide and murder. [1]: http://dhss.alaska.gov/SuicidePrevention/Documents/pdfs_sspc/AKSuicideStatistics.pdf http://dhss.alaska.gov/SuicidePrevention/Documents/pdfs_sspc... [2]:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_homicide_rate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_homicid...
messick 7y ago
It's going great. Stabbing deaths in London in 2018 were just over 3 "El Pasos". It's less than 3X if you change the metric to "2019 mass shootings posted to 8chan ahead of time". I'm sorry that Fox News has led you so astray, but the whole "actually everyone in London gets stabbed because they don't have guns" narrative is horseshit.
- Pigo 7y ago
  You guys should really get on top of that pointy stick situation now. Fox News???