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If 8Chan was a breeding ground for Islamic Extremists would people be okay with still existing? Strangely enough, most people who find censorship ideologically

If 8Chan was a breeding ground for Islamic Extremists would people be okay with still existing? Strangely enough, most people who find censorship ideologically palatable consider Jihadists a more sympathetic group than Incels. Note that ISIS beheadings have been subject to far less censorship than the Christchurch shooter's propaganda, for example.

kristiandupont 7y ago
I doubt that.
- 1000units 7y ago
  I make a factual claim you can investigate on your own. Perhaps your findings will surprise you. As an aside, I recommend engaging with people you disagree with politically to understand their motivations and opinions. Much of political discourse is superficially ridiculous, but almost everything can be made sense of and appreciated once you get a view of the whole picture. Good luck.
1000units 7y ago
And a note to the simpleton downvoters, so that they may possibly grow: my profile has contained an Arabic adoration of the Islamic God since before I posted the above comment. I am Roman Catholic and deeply oppose censorship of any kind.
- gamblor956 7y ago
  So that you may grow: The Islamic God and the Catholic God are one and the same.
  - 1000units 7y ago
    Not quite, but you're on to something.
  - ben509 7y ago
    To Catholics, as with all Christians, God is Jesus Christ.[1] The Islamic view is that Jesus of Nazareth was a prophet.[2][3] (The audio answer is a bit long, but quite good.) The argument that Allah is the same as the Father in the Christian trinity depends on various heresies[4] (incorrect claims), maybe one of Monarchianism, Sabellianism, Tritheism. So, no, neither religion accepts that they are one and the same. And this is due to central tenets of each respective faith. [1]: http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/__P1I.HTM http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/__P1I.HTM [2]: http://www.askislam.org/people/prophets/jesus/question_566.html http://www.askislam.org/people/prophets/jesus/question_566.h... [3]: http://www.askimam.org/public/question_detail/40921 http://www.askimam.org/public/question_detail/40921 [4]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_movements_declared_heretical_by_the_Catholic_Church#Trinitarian/Christological_heresies https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_movements_declared_her...
    - 1000units 7y ago
      Thank you for explaining that for him. It's a shame how far some are from God.
      - ben509 7y ago
        Haha, well, I'm skeptical that obscure exegesis is much of a way to get closer to God, though maybe for this audience it could be. As it's impossible to quantify the unknown, when we approach a subject we're not familiar with, our bias is to assume it's very simple. So I think it's helpful to dig in a little to give a hint at the vast amount of scholarly work done on these subjects.
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kristiandupont 7y ago

I doubt that.

1000units 7y ago
I make a factual claim you can investigate on your own. Perhaps your findings will surprise you. As an aside, I recommend engaging with people you disagree with politically to understand their motivations and opinions. Much of political discourse is superficially ridiculous, but almost everything can be made sense of and appreciated once you get a view of the whole picture. Good luck.

1000units 7y ago

And a note to the simpleton downvoters, so that they may possibly grow: my profile has contained an Arabic adoration of the Islamic God since before I posted the above comment. I am Roman Catholic and deeply oppose censorship of any kind.

gamblor956 7y ago
So that you may grow: The Islamic God and the Catholic God are one and the same.
- 1000units 7y ago
  Not quite, but you're on to something.
- ben509 7y ago
  To Catholics, as with all Christians, God is Jesus Christ.[1] The Islamic view is that Jesus of Nazareth was a prophet.[2][3] (The audio answer is a bit long, but quite good.) The argument that Allah is the same as the Father in the Christian trinity depends on various heresies[4] (incorrect claims), maybe one of Monarchianism, Sabellianism, Tritheism. So, no, neither religion accepts that they are one and the same. And this is due to central tenets of each respective faith. [1]: http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/__P1I.HTM http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/__P1I.HTM [2]: http://www.askislam.org/people/prophets/jesus/question_566.html http://www.askislam.org/people/prophets/jesus/question_566.h... [3]: http://www.askimam.org/public/question_detail/40921 http://www.askimam.org/public/question_detail/40921 [4]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_movements_declared_heretical_by_the_Catholic_Church#Trinitarian/Christological_heresies https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_movements_declared_her...
  - 1000units 7y ago
    Thank you for explaining that for him. It's a shame how far some are from God.
    - ben509 7y ago
      Haha, well, I'm skeptical that obscure exegesis is much of a way to get closer to God, though maybe for this audience it could be. As it's impossible to quantify the unknown, when we approach a subject we're not familiar with, our bias is to assume it's very simple. So I think it's helpful to dig in a little to give a hint at the vast amount of scholarly work done on these subjects.

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