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> I think I'm on the same boat as you on this one; I tend to have a pretty libertarian view on free speech, but lately the bizarre rise of hyper-radical idiots

> I think I'm on the same boat as you on this one; I tend to have a pretty libertarian view on free speech, but lately the bizarre rise of hyper-radical idiots on places like 8chan (and even YouTube to a lesser extent) has really made me question these things. there have always been hyper-radical idiots. with 8chan and such, you can see them. you're not getting rid of anything, you're just sticking your head into the sand.

tombert 7y ago
> there have always been hyper-radical idiots. with 8chan and such, you can see them. Sure, I'm aware that the KKK existed before the internet. > you're not getting rid of anything, you're just sticking your head into the sand. I didn't claim I was getting rid of anyone or anything. I didn't really claim much at all in my post, but there's a difference between "getting rid" of stuff and deplatforming it. For that matter, how does your logic make any sense? If I hire a hitman to kill someone, could my defense in court be "Well he was going to kill somebody anyway! You're just sticking your head in the sand by blaming me for it!" Is your argument that rhetoric, delivered consistently enough and effectively enough, can't possibly influence people to do reprehensible things?
- ethbro 7y ago
  However, most southern states still have anti-masking laws on the books specifically to discourage KKK meetings and actions.
IfOnlyYouKnew 7y ago
It's more like sticking their head into the sand, isn't it (metaphorically)?
at-fates-hands 7y ago
Just like 8chan isn't getting rid of them either. They're just pushing them to a different platform where its going to be harder to keep tabs on these people. I just wonder with all the technology we have at our disposal, how is it these people continue to slip through the system undeterred to escalate this type of violence?

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> I think I'm on the same boat as you on this one; I tend to have a pretty libertarian view on free speech, but lately the bizarre rise of hyper-radical idiots

by sigstoat 7y ago

tombert 7y ago
> there have always been hyper-radical idiots. with 8chan and such, you can see them. Sure, I'm aware that the KKK existed before the internet. > you're not getting rid of anything, you're just sticking your head into the sand. I didn't claim I was getting rid of anyone or anything. I didn't really claim much at all in my post, but there's a difference between "getting rid" of stuff and deplatforming it. For that matter, how does your logic make any sense? If I hire a hitman to kill someone, could my defense in court be "Well he was going to kill somebody anyway! You're just sticking your head in the sand by blaming me for it!" Is your argument that rhetoric, delivered consistently enough and effectively enough, can't possibly influence people to do reprehensible things?
- ethbro 7y ago
  However, most southern states still have anti-masking laws on the books specifically to discourage KKK meetings and actions.
IfOnlyYouKnew 7y ago
It's more like sticking their head into the sand, isn't it (metaphorically)?
at-fates-hands 7y ago
Just like 8chan isn't getting rid of them either. They're just pushing them to a different platform where its going to be harder to keep tabs on these people. I just wonder with all the technology we have at our disposal, how is it these people continue to slip through the system undeterred to escalate this type of violence?