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Really nicely presented site, but I can't be the only one who's tired of what feels like people constantly "name dropping" these models to make a point. Just be

Really nicely presented site, but I can't be the only one who's tired of what feels like people constantly "name dropping" these models to make a point. Just because it has a name doesn't magically make your argument more impactful, you still have to convince me.

jcutrell 7y ago
Giving things names is one step in convincing people. This is the principle behind recognition. But I agree with your point - substance over labels!
scrooched_moose 7y ago
Similar to the fallacy fallacy: The fallacy fallacy is a logical fallacy which occurs when someone assumes that if an argument contains a logical fallacy, then its conclusion must necessarily be wrong. https://effectiviology.com/fallacy-fallacy/ https://effectiviology.com/fallacy-fallacy/
- atarian 7y ago
  Thank you. I knew this was a thing but I never knew what to call it.
- dorgo 7y ago
  Nice one. But it works both ways. If the conclusion is true, the argument could still be a fallacy.
vinay_ys 7y ago
"name dropping" is a type of fallacy – argument from authority fallacy. https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFallacies/21/Appeal-to-Authority https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFalla...
clairity 7y ago
the names are a shortcut so you don't have to spell out the steps of the argument every time. that's just language, words are shortcuts for things and ideas. sometimes the application of the fallacy may not be obvious, requiring the convincing you ask for, and sometimes it's so obvious, no further explanation is needed. maybe just ask for clarification when it's not clear to you?
cuddlecake 7y ago
I have one colleague who used to constantly name-drop the pareto-principle, as an argument to stop working on something.
Dowwie 7y ago
You are living with pessimism bias, but fortunately there's treatment. Take two pills of survivorship bias and call me in the morning.

jcutrell 7y ago

Giving things names is one step in convincing people. This is the principle behind recognition. But I agree with your point - substance over labels!

scrooched_moose 7y ago

Similar to the fallacy fallacy: The fallacy fallacy is a logical fallacy which occurs when someone assumes that if an argument contains a logical fallacy, then its conclusion must necessarily be wrong. https://effectiviology.com/fallacy-fallacy/ https://effectiviology.com/fallacy-fallacy/

atarian 7y ago
Thank you. I knew this was a thing but I never knew what to call it.
dorgo 7y ago
Nice one. But it works both ways. If the conclusion is true, the argument could still be a fallacy.

vinay_ys 7y ago

"name dropping" is a type of fallacy – argument from authority fallacy. https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFallacies/21/Appeal-to-Authority https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFalla...

clairity 7y ago

the names are a shortcut so you don't have to spell out the steps of the argument every time. that's just language, words are shortcuts for things and ideas. sometimes the application of the fallacy may not be obvious, requiring the convincing you ask for, and sometimes it's so obvious, no further explanation is needed. maybe just ask for clarification when it's not clear to you?

cuddlecake 7y ago

I have one colleague who used to constantly name-drop the pareto-principle, as an argument to stop working on something.

Dowwie 7y ago

You are living with pessimism bias, but fortunately there's treatment. Take two pills of survivorship bias and call me in the morning.