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Ok I did as you suggested and then went to https://www.google.com/recaptcha/api2/demo https://www.google.com/recaptcha/api2/demo Took me all of 5 seconds to s

Ok I did as you suggested and then went to https://www.google.com/recaptcha/api2/demo https://www.google.com/recaptcha/api2/demo Took me all of 5 seconds to solve

mindslight 7y ago
The most insidious thing about this two-tiered surveillance society is that its effects are invisible to people in the "good" class, and they insist on remaining ignorant of what happens if you're not in that class. Google still has plenty of other tracking points on you. And of course reCAPTCHA looks reasonable to a prospective developer - it wouldn't be adopted otherwise! If someone tells you it routinely takes 30 seconds to solve, you should really just accept their experience rather than discarding it with "works fine for me!". If you still need to see it with your own eyes, go setup a TOR browser and become one of the undesirables, rather than just imagining. You just might end up adopting the marginalized view.
cyphar 7y ago
Try using Tor and a real website that is using reCAPTCHA (I don't think they have their actual scoring system enabled on the demo). GP posted a link to a video of someone solving a single reCAPTCHA prompt for 2.5 minutes. I also regularly have to solve several CAPTCHAs in a row, often with increasing levels of image distortion. Before being so brazenly dismissive of other people's experiences, take the few measly minutes it would take to actually try it out. Even doing a simple Google search with Tor Browser usually gives you a reCAPTCHA to solve.
- brokensegue 7y ago
  > being so brazenly dismissive of other people's experiences, take the few measly minutes it would take to actually try it out ?? I did try it exactly as was requested of me. I didn't know where to find a recaptcha so I went to the demo page. It's possible the video is the result of a bug and not normal behaviour. I wouldn't know as I don't often browse with tor.
  - jraph 7y ago
    I've experienced that in the past, without using tor, but using Firefox. I go to great lengths to block anything Google. Google Fonts, Google CDNs (and I now use Decentraleyes so CDNs are mostly not even reached). I have to explicitly unblock reCAPTCHA scripts for it to even work - or use a clean and disposable browser profile. I've occasionally seen the behavior on the video when I really need to access the page (though usually I just complain to the webmaster). I once had to request a new password for my online bank account. I ended up asking the bank manager to reset my password, pretending that reCAPTCHA is preventing me from resetting the password myself. My bank is not paying me for solving captchas for Google's benefit (this is so screwed up…). The biggest offender is CloudFlare for me.
  - cyphar 7y ago
    > I didn't know where to find a recaptcha so I went to the demo page. Well, now you do (though I was a bit of an asshat in my parent comment, sorry about that): > Even doing a simple Google search with Tor Browser usually gives you a reCAPTCHA to solve. You can get the Tor Browser from [1]. [1]: https://www.torproject.org/ https://www.torproject.org/

Ok I did as you suggested and then went to https://www.google.com/recaptcha/api2/demo https://www.google.com/recaptcha/api2/demo Took me all of 5 seconds to solve

mindslight 7y ago

The most insidious thing about this two-tiered surveillance society is that its effects are invisible to people in the "good" class, and they insist on remaining ignorant of what happens if you're not in that class. Google still has plenty of other tracking points on you. And of course reCAPTCHA looks reasonable to a prospective developer - it wouldn't be adopted otherwise! If someone tells you it routinely takes 30 seconds to solve, you should really just accept their experience rather than discarding it with "works fine for me!". If you still need to see it with your own eyes, go setup a TOR browser and become one of the undesirables, rather than just imagining. You just might end up adopting the marginalized view.

cyphar 7y ago

Try using Tor and a real website that is using reCAPTCHA (I don't think they have their actual scoring system enabled on the demo). GP posted a link to a video of someone solving a single reCAPTCHA prompt for 2.5 minutes. I also regularly have to solve several CAPTCHAs in a row, often with increasing levels of image distortion. Before being so brazenly dismissive of other people's experiences, take the few measly minutes it would take to actually try it out. Even doing a simple Google search with Tor Browser usually gives you a reCAPTCHA to solve.

brokensegue 7y ago
> being so brazenly dismissive of other people's experiences, take the few measly minutes it would take to actually try it out ?? I did try it exactly as was requested of me. I didn't know where to find a recaptcha so I went to the demo page. It's possible the video is the result of a bug and not normal behaviour. I wouldn't know as I don't often browse with tor.
- jraph 7y ago
  I've experienced that in the past, without using tor, but using Firefox. I go to great lengths to block anything Google. Google Fonts, Google CDNs (and I now use Decentraleyes so CDNs are mostly not even reached). I have to explicitly unblock reCAPTCHA scripts for it to even work - or use a clean and disposable browser profile. I've occasionally seen the behavior on the video when I really need to access the page (though usually I just complain to the webmaster). I once had to request a new password for my online bank account. I ended up asking the bank manager to reset my password, pretending that reCAPTCHA is preventing me from resetting the password myself. My bank is not paying me for solving captchas for Google's benefit (this is so screwed up…). The biggest offender is CloudFlare for me.
- cyphar 7y ago
  > I didn't know where to find a recaptcha so I went to the demo page. Well, now you do (though I was a bit of an asshat in my parent comment, sorry about that): > Even doing a simple Google search with Tor Browser usually gives you a reCAPTCHA to solve. You can get the Tor Browser from [1]. [1]: https://www.torproject.org/ https://www.torproject.org/