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Yep... I returned yesterday from Germany and it is awful. I thought the UK (rural) was bad, but Germany takes the cake. There are even (expensive) hotels which

Yep... I returned yesterday from Germany and it is awful. I thought the UK (rural) was bad, but Germany takes the cake. There are even (expensive) hotels which still ask money for using their wifi. When you go to have only a meal at a hotel, they tell you internet is just for guests (we had this 5 times in 2 weeks). And driving around with 3g/4g you notice massive patches without data reception. I live in the mountains of Spain where I have cheap 4g and even cheaper 'radio' uplinks. They are enough to download gigs a day (not that I need that; I need stable, not a lot of bandwidth, but it's both). I was used to drive out of London a just a little bit and everything dropping, but Germany is even worse. And when it does work, it's slow. Compared to Thailand (including in the middle of the forest), Romania and other random countries I have been, it is strange to see such a difference.

AdrianB1 7y ago
Talking about Romania: in the modem Internet era I cabled (with my brother)the block of flats where we lived to share a connection. The wires were hanging between floors and were simply stitched to the walls internally. These types of cabling were then bought by ISP for cheap and they found themselves with cities cabled for pennies. Now they pulled fiber on public light poles (for free, of course) and interconnected all these networks, changed the switches to Gigabit and got cheap and fast Internet for the masses. You cannot do this kind of shady work in Germany, you need to get permits, pull the wiring underground, these kind of things increase the cost a lot. Also the mobile Internet is fast in Romania because of the competition from the very fast land lines. In Germany both are missing.
- iforgotpassword 7y ago
  Yeah bureaucracy and regulations is one of the reasons things suck here. Extending the network is ridiculously costly with all the planning, approvements required, the city having a say, some wavie complaining they get headaches, an old dude thinking the tower looks ugly, paying the construction company and finally having that thing certified after it's been built.

AdrianB1 7y ago

Talking about Romania: in the modem Internet era I cabled (with my brother)the block of flats where we lived to share a connection. The wires were hanging between floors and were simply stitched to the walls internally. These types of cabling were then bought by ISP for cheap and they found themselves with cities cabled for pennies. Now they pulled fiber on public light poles (for free, of course) and interconnected all these networks, changed the switches to Gigabit and got cheap and fast Internet for the masses. You cannot do this kind of shady work in Germany, you need to get permits, pull the wiring underground, these kind of things increase the cost a lot. Also the mobile Internet is fast in Romania because of the competition from the very fast land lines. In Germany both are missing.

iforgotpassword 7y ago
Yeah bureaucracy and regulations is one of the reasons things suck here. Extending the network is ridiculously costly with all the planning, approvements required, the city having a say, some wavie complaining they get headaches, an old dude thinking the tower looks ugly, paying the construction company and finally having that thing certified after it's been built.