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turn on comments on your blog without recaptcha, i dare you.

by arange 7y ago

jMyles 7y ago
There are other techniques that do a reasonable job at stemming the flood. The "hidden field" technique still reduces spam by quite a lot.
- arkitaip 7y ago
  That technique hasn't worked for years. Try setting up a vanilla WordPress installation with the most popular forms plugins. The only anti-spam measure that works is reCaptcha v. 3.
  - ksangeelee 7y ago
    From experience, Akismet works well, so reCaptcha is not the only anti-spam measure that works for WordPress.
- inimino 7y ago
  I wrote about another technique at the end of my own captcha rant: https://inimino.org/~inimino/blog/kill_captcha https://inimino.org/~inimino/blog/kill_captcha The proposed solution would replace captcha entirely, but to my knowledge nobody has tried it.
  - basicplus2 7y ago
    How about different revocable secret keys to your mailbox given only to those who you wish to contact you
    - inimino 7y ago
      If people have to request to be able to contact you, it is not a public inbox anymore. This is the way most walled gardens work, you have a separate step before you can interact, so it works, but it lacks some of the affordances of the public inbox model of email or blog posts, such as allowing anonymity.
CraneWorm 7y ago
better yet, get rid of the comments all together. having no comments saves you from having to moderate them and it's just not worth it. if you're writing anything tech related and worthwhile you can just proxy the discussion to HN ;)
- rtkwe 7y ago
  Not really a great option. People only really see stuff on HN that's relatively fresh so anyone coming in after the initial wave of engagement dies down won't see any discussion.
  - megous 7y ago
    Also you can't discuss on old content anyway. It's blocked.
    - rtkwe 7y ago
      Yeah, somewhere around 2 weeks after a post they completely seal the comments on HN.
aquabeagle 7y ago
https://akismet.com/ https://akismet.com/
celsoazevedo 7y ago
For WordPress there are plugins like Akismet (a service), Antispam Bee (local), etc, that are pretty good at filtering spam without the need to display annoying captchas.
- neop1x 7y ago
  While sending comment bodies to these services :) what a privacy
maximente 7y ago
that's just a tell that you value ease of moderation and selling your potential community members out to G more than inviting new members to your community. certainly telling of the person running the blog. i've had success with bayesian filters and shadowbanning myself, but it does require some effort.

turn on comments on your blog without recaptcha, i dare you.

by arange 7y ago

turn on comments on your blog without recaptcha, i dare you.

There are other techniques that do a reasonable job at stemming the flood. The "hidden field" technique still reduces spam by quite a lot.

arkitaip 7y ago
That technique hasn't worked for years. Try setting up a vanilla WordPress installation with the most popular forms plugins. The only anti-spam measure that works is reCaptcha v. 3.
- ksangeelee 7y ago
  From experience, Akismet works well, so reCaptcha is not the only anti-spam measure that works for WordPress.
inimino 7y ago
I wrote about another technique at the end of my own captcha rant: https://inimino.org/~inimino/blog/kill_captcha https://inimino.org/~inimino/blog/kill_captcha The proposed solution would replace captcha entirely, but to my knowledge nobody has tried it.
- basicplus2 7y ago
  How about different revocable secret keys to your mailbox given only to those who you wish to contact you
  - inimino 7y ago
    If people have to request to be able to contact you, it is not a public inbox anymore. This is the way most walled gardens work, you have a separate step before you can interact, so it works, but it lacks some of the affordances of the public inbox model of email or blog posts, such as allowing anonymity.

CraneWorm 7y ago

better yet, get rid of the comments all together. having no comments saves you from having to moderate them and it's just not worth it. if you're writing anything tech related and worthwhile you can just proxy the discussion to HN ;)

rtkwe 7y ago
Not really a great option. People only really see stuff on HN that's relatively fresh so anyone coming in after the initial wave of engagement dies down won't see any discussion.
- megous 7y ago
  Also you can't discuss on old content anyway. It's blocked.
  - rtkwe 7y ago
    Yeah, somewhere around 2 weeks after a post they completely seal the comments on HN.

aquabeagle 7y ago

https://akismet.com/ https://akismet.com/

celsoazevedo 7y ago

For WordPress there are plugins like Akismet (a service), Antispam Bee (local), etc, that are pretty good at filtering spam without the need to display annoying captchas.

neop1x 7y ago
While sending comment bodies to these services :) what a privacy

maximente 7y ago

that's just a tell that you value ease of moderation and selling your potential community members out to G more than inviting new members to your community. certainly telling of the person running the blog. i've had success with bayesian filters and shadowbanning myself, but it does require some effort.